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Linux From Scratch - Version SVN-20161027 Chapter 7. System Configuration
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7.6. System V Bootscript Usage and Configuration 7.6.1. How Do the System V Bootscripts Work?
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Booting and Shutting Down
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Chapter 15. init and runlevels - linux-training.be
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6.52. Sysvinit-2.86 - Open Source Software on erdfunkstelle.de
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Signals - The Linux Documentation Project
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RU.LINUX Frequently Asked Questions Alexander Kanavin, ak@sensi.org Версия от 18.02.2003.
Сборник часто задаваемых вопросов (с ответами), связанных с ОС Linux. Последняя версия находится по адреcу http://www.sensi.org/~ak/linuxfaq/
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RU.LINUX Frequently Asked Questions | Система, ядро, утилиты ...
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RU.LINUX Frequently Asked Questions: Русификация - OpenNet
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7.6. System V Bootscript Usage and Configuration 7.6.1. How Do the System V Bootscripts Work?
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/chapter07/usage.html
Booting and Shutting Down
http://www.ube.ege.edu.tr/~erciyes/unix_sysadm/kent/boot~1.htm
Chapter 15. init and runlevels - linux-training.be
http://linux-training.be/sysadmin/ch15.html
6.52. Sysvinit-2.86 - Open Source Software on erdfunkstelle.de
http://oss.erdfunkstelle.de/lfs-de/6.3/online/chapter06/sysvinit.html
Signals - The Linux Documentation Project
http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_12_01.html
Other (human) Languages - Linux Documentation
http://linux.die.net/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/other-lang.html
The Linux Documentation Project Works
http://www.tldp.org/docs.html
The Linux Documentation Project Links: Non-English Information
http://www.tldp.org/links/nenglish.html
http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO.html
http://www.sensi.org/~ak/linuxfaq/index_ru.html
RU.LINUX Frequently Asked Questions Alexander Kanavin, ak@sensi.org Версия от 18.02.2003.
Сборник часто задаваемых вопросов (с ответами), связанных с ОС Linux. Последняя версия находится по адреcу http://www.sensi.org/~ak/linuxfaq/
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RU.LINUX Frequently Asked Questions | Система, ядро, утилиты ...
http://www.linuxcenter.ru/lib/articles/system/rulinux_faq.phtml
RU.LINUX Frequently Asked Questions: Русификация - OpenNet
http://www.opennet.ru/.../rulinuxfaq/rulinux.faq-3.html
Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide
http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
Материалы за 18.10.2003 - Страница 7 - Документация по Linux
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Date: 2016-11-02 08:32 pm (UTC)Posted by timothy on Monday May 11, 2015 @07:28AM from the shades-of-the-gnome-transition dep
jones_supa writes: After Debian adopted systemd, many other Linux distributions based on that operating system made the switch as well. Ubuntu has already rolled out systemd in 15.04, but Linux Mint is providing dual options for users. The Ubuntu transition was surprisingly painless, and no one really put up a fight, but the Linux Mint team chose the middle ground. The Mint developers consider that the project needs to still wait for systemd to become more stable and mature, before it will be the default and only option.
Comments:
.. by Junta ( 36770 ) writes: on Monday May 11, 2015 @08:49AM (#49663235) SystemD - works well when it works, fails spectacularly when it fails. Incidentally that is precisely the way Windows is. Windows is exceedingly structured and engineered (contrary to some beliefs), but as a a result when it fails... boy does it go down so hard that no one is going to bring it back. Not surprising many of the principles in Windows design match the design principles of many modern linux distros: Binary configuration files, binary log files, increasingly complex IPC schemes, and less and less friendly to simple scripts (though increasingly better for complex scripting). ..
.. by Junta ( 36770 ) writes: on Monday May 11, 2015 @09:04AM (#49663321) dconf uses binary configuration files. As I've said many times, while systemd catches a lot of flak for messing with long standing conventions, it is far from alone in modifying the experience (dbus, dconf, systemd, udev all do interesting things, each component bringing interesting capability with varying degrees of drawbacks). I think udev generally does a great job of delivering useful capability with minimal downside. Then dconf (most people don't even realize the binary dconf files exist, even when they poke dconf extensively). dbus starts going off the rails (many things that once were simple enough to explore/grep around for are now only possible through internet search of obscure dbus-send commands). systemd I actually consider less bad than having to do more and more dbus stuff. ..
.. by Junta ( 36770 ) writes: Right now the 'debate' is in full on 'no true scotsman' fallacy mode. No *real* users are complaining, so all people who *sound* like they are complaining need to shut up. If you complain, you must not be a *true* user. ..
.. by phantomfive ( 622387 ) writes: you know what makes a good UNIX or UNIX-like operating system? The tools, specifically those that are well-written and do one thing and do it well
This link has a pretty good summary
( http://catb.org/esr/writings/taoup/html/ch01s05.html ).
I summarize the Unix way as "write good code." ..
.. by phantomfive ( 622387 ) writes: on Monday May 11, 2015 @10:41AM (#49664115) Journal The reason so many distros have adopted systemd is because it fills a need: it does something useful for them. This topic ( http://slashdot.org/~phantomfive/journal/2152187 ) has been exposited ( http://slashdot.org/~phantomfive/journal/2155641 ).
In the second link, note how much shorter the unit file is than the init script. That is why distro maintainers have adopted systemd, because they have to write less code. So Lennart found something people needed, and built it. That's why people adopted it. You don't have to like systemd, but you should at least understand why it's been adopted. ..
.. by phantomfive ( 622387 ) writes: Russ Albery [debian.org] has a good discussion of the topic. You may not agree with him, but you ought to be aware of his points. For example,
Sysvinit [is] simply inadequate.... The model of fork and exit without clear synchronization points is inherently racy, the boot model encoded into sysvinit doesn't reflect a modern system boot, and maintaining large and complex init scripts as conffiles has been painful for years. Nearly every init script, including the ones in my own packages, have various edge-case bugs or problems because it's very hard to write robust service startup in shell, even with the excellent helper programs and shell libraries that Debian has available. A quick perusal of /etc/init.d/skeleton and the complex case statements and careful attention to status codes required for a proper init script makes this case clear. ..
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/05/11/085208/linux-mint-will-continue-to-provide-both-systemd-and-upstart
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=auto&tl=ru&u=http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/05/11/085208/linux-mint-will-continue-to-provide-both-systemd-and-upstart