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oio11My Kingdom is Not of This World: An Interview with Prince Nicholas de Vere von Drakenberg
By Tracy R. Twyman
Originally written for
Paranoia Magazine, Copyright 2004
(Does not necessarily represent author’s current viewpoint.)
But there is much in the original de Vere text that is not to be found in the Gardner version, and there is an authenticity to de Vere’s work, derived from the fact that he is the true inheritor and guardian of this tradition — the Dragon tradition, also known as the Grail tradition. De Vere has spent two decades delving into history, mythology, science, religion, and his own family archives to compile what is perhaps the most extensive and insightful text upon this subject ever published. What de Vere has come up with is enough to comprise not just another pop culture craze, but an entirely new theology, with a new philosophy and politics as well. But de Vere is clearly not out to get rich or be popular, as he has already forgone numerous opportunities to obtain both. Writing about an elite genetic strain of humanity that descends from a super-human race, and which possesses abilities inaccessible to those outside of that strain, is not exactly a ticket to universal adulation. To the contrary, de Vere’s assertions regarding the elite status of the Dragon bloodline have branded him completely anathema to the Wiccan and New Age communities who would otherwise be among those most open to his message. Which begs the question: why has Nicholas de Vere spent the last twenty years of his life on this monumental task, and why does he continue to do so?
I have known Nicholas de five years, and despite what some naysayers have claimed, I have found him to be amazingly humble, selfless, anti-materialistic, and at times brutally honest. He is personable, charming, sincere, and not the least bit conceited, despite knowing that his writing has redefined an entire field of research, that he is the head of an elite occult order with origins stretching back to the Knights Templar, and that he holds a potential claim to several important royal titles. This, some have supposed, is the real motivation behind his work. Some believe that de Vere wants to be the King of England or France, an assertion that he flatly denies. Others see in de Vere a candidate for nothing less than the anti-Christ himself, and see in the Dragon Court an international Satanic conspiracy somewhere on a level between the Ordo Templi Orientis and the Bilderberg Group. But while it is true that, when the Great Dragon of Revelation
does emerge to take hold of the world, he will undoubtedly be of the Dragon blood, and may even be a member of the Court, Prince Nicholas de Vere is certainly not he. As I am sure he would humbly admit himself, de Vere’s mission is simply to prepare the way for He who is yet to come. Listen, then, dear readers, to the voice crying out in the wilderness.
TT:
What is your educational background? What careers have you pursued in the past?
NDV:
I was educated to the British equivalent of ‘High School Graduate’ with qualifications in English Law, English Language, Art, Sociology and Business Economics. I have a further Royal Society of Arts qualification in English. I spent two periods at Brighton University and Coleg Ceredigion where I studied English and Printing, and then later Law, Sociology and Politics.
My main careers have been in:
TT:
What is the history of your career in professional non-fiction writing?
NDV:
I started writing in earnest in 1985 and was eventually persuaded to publish the thrust of my work on the Internet in 1999.
NDV:
About six years ago. The Dragon Legacy![]()
was known on the net as From Transylvania to Tunbridge Wells
and this was a summary of years of research and reflection. Some of it appeared in Laurence Gardner’s Genesis of the Grail Kings![]()
and then after I published it on the web, Lawrence based his third book Realm of the Ring Lords![]()
largely on what I had already published.
TT:
What were your main sources of information when compiling the book?
NDV:
On the so-called Dragon “path” one is imbued hereditarily with Dragon capabilities in varying measures. As one progresses these capabilities wax and wane according to necessity. One of the main capacities is the Derkesthai Process, in which information is “channeled” through the conduit of the Dragon archetype; specifically the racial consciousness of those of the Dragon blood. Through this process one may pick up naturally, all sorts of information relating to varied aspects of the Dragon Tradition in its many and various branches and manifestations. However, this is of no use intellectually and rationally without informed academic confirmation and corroboration.
To this end another Dragon capacity is to be able to obtain after the fact those confirmations required. I anticipated works before I read them, either through meditation or through experience on the Dragon Path. In a not too dissimilar manner Kerkule discovered the “Bezine Ring.”
I would say that the serious academic backbone of The Dragon Legacy![]()
in terms of corroboration and confirmation, lies in the work of Dr. David Barker; George Woodcock; Lysander Spooner; Professor Miranda Green; Pierre Proudhon; Professors Pierpaoli and Regelson; David Anderson; The Oxford English Dictionary and an old associate Mr. C. Murray Hall M.A. (Lecturer in Barbarian Cultures: Sussex University).
TT:
How did you begin research into your family history? At what point in your life did you become aware of “the Dragon legacy” in your family? Is it something you grew up with?
NDV:
From the age of seven onwards my father told me about our ancestry, an ancestry steeped in royal blood and most significantly of all in what is termed Royal Witchcraft, which is a major, ancient, draconian, druidic facet continuing within the later history of the Dragon tradition and within the Vere family.
My father educated me about our particular origins in the royal and noble Blackwood family of Lanark, Scotland. This dynasty sired the most significant practitioner of the Dragon tradition in his time: Major Thomas Weir of Vere of Edinburgh, my 11th great grandfather.
As a witch lord and the prince consort to the elven queen of the Lallan, Thomas performed the ancient Gaelic rites of the sacred kingship of Epona, and consequently founded this rite of kingship within my lineage. So I received the tradition at an early age from my father and he received it from his father, and so on.
TT:
Your formal title is “Prince Nicholas de Vere.” What does this title imply?
NDV:
To answer your question I have pasted-in an excerpt from the ‘Duchy of Angiers’ genealogical table charting the ancient, royal descent of the Dragon House of Vere which, as you know, will shortly be published with a full compliment of supporting historical and contemporary academic sources.
I quote:
So I trace my lineage back in an unbroken bloodline to the imperial prince Milo de Vere Count of Anjou in 740 A.D., son of Princess Milouziana of the Scythians. She was recorded throughout France as being the Elven, Dragon Princess of the Scottish Picts, and her Grandson Milo II derived his Merovingian descent through his father’s marital alliance with the imperial house of Charlene.
Later in history we picked up numerous other lines of Merovingian descent and the attitude in the house of Vere today, both here and in Ireland, reflects that of the Merovingians themselves where inheritance and blood descent is concerned.
Concerning my maternal lineage: my mother is descended from the ancient Collison Jarls of Norfolk, and is the third cousin of the head of the House of Vere. We are a very tightly knit family. The head of the House himself is of Royal Collison descent and this matrilinear Collison extraction also stems from the ancient House of Vere and Princess Milouziana of the Scythians. We are Veres on all sides of the family.
The overall head of the House of Vere today is the Prince Mhaior. By Papal Investiture and by inheritance from the House of the royal O’Brien descendants of King Brian Boru of Tara, the Prince Mhaior is himself an Archduke — not an insignificant Irish earl, as some totally ill-informed malcontent once triumphantly proclaimed in a ridiculous, failed attempt at an expose of me.
The Head of the House, formally addresses me as “the Dragon Prince” of the House of Vere.
NDV:
In brief the recorded Dragon lineage starts with the Annunaki and descends through the proto-Scythians, the Sumerians in one branch and the early Egyptians in another; the Phoenicians, the Mittani, back to the Scythians again through marital alliance, along to the “Tuatha de Danaan” and the Fir Bolg; down through their Arch-Druidic, Priest-Princely families to the Royal Picts of Scotland and the high kings of the Horse Lords of Dal Riada; through to the Elven dynasty of Pendragon and Avallon del Acqs, and down to a few pure bred families today.
TT:
Are these Dragons the same as the “Nephilim” of the Bible or the “Watchers” of The Book of Enoch![]()
?
NDV:
The Nephilim and the Watchers are of the Dragon race, yes.
TT:
Were the gods of ancient cultures (Greece, India, Sumeria, etc.) Dragons?
NDV:
These pantheons are derived from one another so again the answer in simplistic terms is yes.
TT:
What kind of civilization did the Dragons reign over? Would you say that it was the same as the Atlantean or antediluvian civilization?
NDV:
The Platonic Atlantis theory is preceded by a much older tradition relating to the “Ogdoad.” The Ogdoad, sacred to Jesus himself, were the eight great Gods who raked the Sacred Mountain — “Atlantis” — after the original Flood. This Flood occurred in the Black Sea and the Sacred Mountain, so inundated, was believed to be the Pontus Euxine. Apparently the Ogdoad failed in their attempt to bring fertility back to the Holy Place and abandoned it for a life wandering the planet. This is probably why the legend of the Flood spread and can be found in most cultures.
The Ogdoad turn up in Chinese myth, in early Egyptian religious texts, and even in much later Viking legend, where the gods of the Aesir were said to have abandoned the Sacred Mountain after the Flood. From the Ogdoad, who were the first Dragon god-kings of ancient proto-Scythia, we obtain the gods of the Anunnaki, and those later pantheons that derived from them. It is not to be doubted that after the Flood the children of the Anunnaki had established incredible civilisations in their time, so I suppose you could say that the cultures of the Sumerians (whose language, termed “proto-Sumerian,” originated in Transylvania), the Egyptians and even the early settlers in northern Europe stemmed from and reflect an antediluvian prototype, a much older pre-Flood “Golden Age” presided over by the ancient Dragon god-kings and goddess-queens. The mistake would be to put the Atlantean period too far back in time and to locate Atlantis where Plato did. Scientists have proved the Biblical Flood to be in the Black Sea and this region is where most of the Titanic and Olympian sagas, associated with the Dawn of the Gods, unfold.
TT:
Is Dragon blood the true source of divine right kingship, in your opinion? Are the Dragons the rightful rulers of the world’s governments?
NDV:
Anciently Dragon blood, the blood of the gods is the true source of divine right kingship. To say that Dragons are the rightful rulers of the world’s governments today might raise some contention. Perhaps it would be more realistic to suggest that they may well be the rightful rulers of the world’s governments in the future.
TT:
There is a great deal written in your book about Cain. What is his role in the history of the Dragon bloodline?
NDV:
Cain was the scion of the gods, not of Adam. He was bred to be the progenitor of the race of god-kings over man. In terms of the descent of the later Dragons, he is the father of the race.
TT:
What about Isis/Venus? What is her role?
NDV:
The pantheons have overlapped but essentially Isis, in her Egyptian form, belongs to their agricultural-astronomical metaphor, though in her archaic form she originates from the Anunnaki dynasty. The more recent manifestation of Venus is a process belonging essentially to the later Grail ethos. Briefly put, Venus is the Falling Star — Lucifer — and in short, that star in its fall from Heaven to Earth symbolizes, microcosmically, the descent of sacred essences from the brain of the Dragon priestess to her womb, which organ is the physical, biological reality behind the symbol of the Holy Grail, the cauldron of plenty and so forth.
To elucidate, Kabbalistically and Hermetically, we have the image of the divine female — Sophia — though she has many other names, on both the cosmic and human level. The Cosmos was thought to replicate the perfect human form on the universal scale.
Macrocosmically — Above — the heavens or stars are represented by Kether, the head of the figure. From Kether the Cubic Stone in the form of Lucifer, the divine inspiration, falls to Malkuth the Earth, the birth cannal of the Cosmic being.
Microcosmically — Below — Sophia is embodied in the Dragon female and her head rests in Kether, her womb lies in Yesod and her birth canal lies in Malkuth. Microcosmically the process of the descent of divine inspiration from the heavens to the Earth is repeated therefore in the descent of divine, inspiring essences from Kether to Malkuth in the female form.
The male Kabbalistic counterpart on both the cosmic and human level was Adam Kadmon, the perfect combination of the mortal and the divine, through whom holy wisdom was imparted and within whom Lucifer — the serpent or lightning bolt of that divine inspiration — descended from Kether, which was the divine spirit residing within the head, to Tiphareth the mortal soul of man resting within the heart and thence, through holy prophecy, to the inhabitants of the world sphere.
In Kabbalistic tracts the Cosmic or universal Christ was Tiphareth, which was the male counterpart of the Cubic Stone. In mystical Christian terms Jesus Christ, as the Tiphareth, was both the manifestation and receptacle of transcendent Luciferian inspiration.
Indeed, in the biblical Revelation of St. John, Jesus is called “The bright son of the morning” which is Lucifer or Venus, the Falling Star. He is also referred to biblically as the second Adam, the son of God, and reflecting this Christ was viewed in the Kabbala as Adam Kadmon, the divine human being. As Lucifer, in more recent orthodox Christian terms of reference, by a curious twist of logic he consequently embodies both Christ and Anti-Christ, generation and destruction, Ormuzd and Ahriman, light and darkness. It is not to be marvelled at therefore, that the Anti-Christ of the latter days will arise from the very bloodline of Christ himself.
In summary, in some Gnostic dualist traditions Jesus was a bipartite being identified as the male counterpart of the Cubic Stone and the vessel of God’s wisdom on Earth. Because of this, from antiquity up to the present day, his myth has become conjoined with that of the Holy Grail. However both his divine symbolic origins and sacred attributes, and his bloodline — which embodied those sacred attributes — are far older and stem all the way back to the Anunnaki, to both Enlil and Enki, thus to “God” and the “Devil.”
For this reason, the witches of medieval Europe honoured him as the “antecessor” (“the ancestor”) and as “Christ son Dei,” the dual god of light and dark, good and evil, the scion of both God and Satan. In a classical reversal of the biblical story and as a continuation of the earlier Gnostic theme they considered Jehovah the ultimate god of evil, the demiurge. St. Columba called Jesus “Mo Drui, Mac Dei” — “My Druid, Son of God.” In Gaelic, “druid” means “witch,” and “witchcraft” is the lineal descendant of Druidism. This view of Christ is supported in the ancient Christian “Letter to Ceretius.”
TT:
When you refer metaphorically to “the Dragon,” what exactly are you referring to?
“The Dragon” is a term I use generally to mean the dragon archetype resting within the Dragon blood and passed on through the genes. It is the conduit through which flow the memories of the wisdom and experience of the Dragons who have gone before. The word “dragon” is derived from the Greek “edrakon,” which is an aorist of the word “derkesthai,” which means “to see clearly”. “The Dragon” therefore is the inherited Dragon archetype and that archetype is the conduit of clear sight through which racial knowledge flows. Clear sight also and principally refers to transcendent consciousness.
TT:
What percentage of the world’s populace would you say possesses this Dragon blood? Is it predominately found in certain types of people? How can you tell a Dragon from other types of people?
NDV:
Roughly ten percent of Europeans have Dragon blood, and stem from families whose physical attributes clearly point to a genetic inheritance over 100,000 years old. This figure is calculated from research deriving from studies by Oxford University and matched to historical accounts.
TT:
How did the Dragon race begin, and how did they become a separate race from the rest of humanity?
NDV:
They didn’t originate from outer space, that’s for sure. A principal element of the Dragon genome originated in the vast forests of central Europe, and cut off from other species, they developed as a distinct race. By the time of the Anunnaki they had been hybridised to form the ancestors of the later Elves or Dragon kings and queens.
TT:
When we first met you told me about a research project that some university was doing to try and identify “Dragon genes” in people. What exactly is this project, and is it still going on today?
NDV:
To answer this question I will again paste an excerpt of “The Duchy of Angiers” table here and develop the idea afterwards.
I quote:
Basically the Veres were found to have more genes than ordinary people. The family research continues.
TT:
Did dragons possess “magical” powers? If so, do their descendants possess them as well?
NDV:
It depends what you mean by “magical.” The greatest magic of all is to be able to naturally still one’s mind to the point where one sees that “all acts are magical acts.” As a natural course of events stemming from transcendent perception, certain facilities are within the grasp of Dragons. These abilities, though they vary, are hereditary.
TT:
Your former co-author Laurence Gardner![]()
writes a lot about “starfire” and the power of pineal secretions, which are portrayed as being analogous to the Elixir of Life or Philosopher’s Stone, bestowing increased brain capacity, magical ability, and prolonged life upon he who consumes it. These are elements that he clearly picked up from your research. In your writing, you claim that people of “Dragon blood” are the only ones bio-chemically equipped to produce these substances in their own bodies at a high enough level to yield results. But Gardner has written much about this so-called “monatomic gold,” and seems to think that this is a synthetic substitute for “starfire” which ordinary people can consume to become Dragons themselves. Do you know anything about this substance? What is your comment on Mr. Gardner’s theories?
NDV:
Firstly the physical, hormonal elements of Starfire are only one side of the story, and in my book I clearly state that the whole process contains several other “psycho-somatic” elements, not least that pertaining to relationship.
As for being able to pop a pill to become a Dragon, this kind of stupid New Age attitude stems from the ridiculous, totally indefensible greed-driven free market assertion that anyone can become anything they choose, and the totally unfounded PC notion that everyone is equal.
This kind of pathetic liberalism, born as a reaction to the socially inculcated victim mentality, should be abhorred by all rational beings, and so my attitude towards the concept of monatomic gold as a great social leveler and equalizer is one of contempt.
However, you don’t make lots of money by telling the bulk of your readership that they are genetically excluded from a process they cannot experience or understand; you sell New Age drivel by telling the ingenuous that they can all assume any role they like, and adopt any trendy “lifestyle” choice that whim and deceitful advertising dictates. As you know, I don’t write to make money, so I don’t care who I offend with the truth. Can I pop a pill to turn me into a black African Masai warrior? No. Is there a powder I can take to change me into a woman? Of course not. I don’t see the need for monatomic gold myself. “Starfire” and the Seraphic relationship worked perfectly well for me, and in any case you are either genetically a Dragon or you are not, and no amount of monatomic gold is going to change your genetic makeup.
TT:
What was the original meaning and purpose of vampirism?
NDV:
Vampire stems from the word “vber” or “uber,” and means “witch.” It originates in Anatolia; the location of the seven yearly Druidic gatherings: the Nemetons. “Witch” in Gaelic is “Druidhe,” or “druid.” In practical terms and suggested by the term “uber” itself, a Scythian druid was an overlord, and so originally a vampire was an overlord, and hence a Dragon.
The purpose of vampirism depends on the type of vampirism practiced. Starfire was the purpose of “royal” or druidic vampirism in the ancient Scythian families, and in Scythian “warrior” vampirism drinking the blood of fallen brothers in battle was intended to take their essence and bravery into the recipient. The blood of vanquished foes was also drunk. In both cases this also had the advantage of topping up one’s adrenaline and testosterone levels in the heat of conflict. The folklore image of the vampire in Europe stems from this historical root. Vampirism was an integral part of Scythian/Dragon life.
TT:
What are the meanings of the terms:
Are these all names for essentially the same thing, according to your theory?
NDV:
Yes, these terms are all associated with the same being and stem from the Dragon genome.
Fairy = Fate, and by extension a controller of the fate of man and hence an overlord. In all accounts of fairies they are of royal blood or origin.
Pixie = “Pict Sidhe” or “Sithe,” after the Scythian/Dragon habit of painting or tattooing tribal markings onto the body.
Elf = “White or Shining One,” and refers to the countenance of Dragons as witnessed by contemporary observers.
Gnome = “Wise one”; the word “gnome” derives from the Greek root “gno,” from whence we obtain the word “gnosis,” meaning mystical wisdom. A Gnome was a member therefore of the race of Gnomes or Wise Ones and this term is synonymous with “Aryan”; which means “scion of the wise or noble race.” The word “noble” also stems from the same root word as “gnome”: “Gno.” From thence we see that a gnome was a Dragon.
Druid = Man or woman of the Tree, specifically the Tree of Life — the Scythian Priestess — down whom filters the essences of the brain into the Grail receptacle of the womb.
Aryan = Scion of the wise or noble race, see above; another term for the members of the king tribe where “king,” from the Gothic “Kuningjam,” means “scion of the noble (wise and hence Aryan) race.”
Pharisee = In English folklore a “farisee” or “fairy.” In Hebrew it stems from “Parush,” meaning “one who is set aside,” and hence above others.
TT:
How does the symbolism of Baphomet fit in with your theory?
NDV:
Baphomet can be appreciated on several levels depending on your point of view. To the Church, Baphomet was the Devil and in a sense it is; inasmuch as the goat-headed effigy represents, on one level, Enki; who was later to appear as Shaitan. Enki was known as “the Ram of the Shimmering Waters,” and was the prototype of the Golden Fleece. It appears that Baphomet is a later variation on the same theme. From Enki and his partner Lilith we obtain both Capricorn, the Goat of the Water; and Leviathan. In this sense it can be appreciated as a glyph pointing to the origins of the Dragon dynasty.
To compound this view, on occasion the Baphomet appears with the wings of an angel, and the angel clearly associates the Baphomet — as the badge and progenitor of the Dragon race — with the biblical “sons of God,” the Elohim.
On the alchemical level — in Eliphas Levi’s depiction — we have the negation of the gender polarities and individuation within the Seraphic Relationship, a dynamic where, as Arthur Machin, put it “the two Dragons devour each other and another is born; a Phoenix, a Star of Wonder.” In Levi’s glyph this process is encapsulated in the words “solve” and “coagula.” The upshot of all this is the psychological death of the “Old Man” of the unregenerate ego and the re-emergence in “the New Man” of transcendent perception and “union with Godhead.” Associated with this we have Baphomet or, as some put it, “Father Mithras.”
As Mithras, Baphomet represents the killing of the ‘world bull’ of unregenerate perception, from which sacrifice flows the fertility of the freed consciousness. Additionally, Mithras is the balancing medium between the extreme forces of generation and destruction — and therefore represents cosmic balance in the universe and personal detachment in the individual. Here we touch upon the Hermetic doctrine of “As above, so below.” What happens in the cosmos takes place also in man.
In this vein we can see that the Baphomet symbolizes the Beast 666 — man as God — uniting the Earthly nature of man represented as the goat; and the divine element of man as symbolized by the angel’s wings. In this glyph we see that the divine is to be found in base nature and base nature is to be found in the divine. The Kabbalists put it as “Kether in Malkuth, and Malkuth in Kether.”
In practical terms it means that Heaven is on Earth and Earth is in Heaven and in reality there is no “path” to tread, no “system” of so-called enlightenment to follow, because it is all here now. Kill the “world bull” of fear and greed; still the mind and the timeless, the eternal, the heavenly becomes apparent here and now on Earth, not in some ethereal “life after death” state to come.
Baphomet, as the legendary head of the Templars, has an earlier correlation in the story of the detached head of the Arch-Druid Bran the Blessed which was also a font of wisdom and fertility. The close association of the Head of Wisdom — the Baphomet — with the Grail is demonstrated in the depiction of the Templar Skull and Cross Bones; the original “Joli Rouges” or “Jolly Roger.” Again this has a Hermetic meaning inasmuch as what is above (in the head) is also below (in the womb, or “Grail”). The head as a Grail symbol derives spiritually from the Celtic belief that the divine soul resided within the head. The severed head — the skull — resting on the crossed bones of the thighs near the pudenda denotes that the head and the womb were both the receptacles of the divine, and were therefore synonymous as symbols of the Holy Grail.
TT:
Is the Dragon bloodline a Satanic or Luciferian bloodline?
NDV:
Yes is the honest and simple answer.
TT:
If a person believes that they have the Dragon gene, and they want to start developing the powers inherent in their blood, what course would you suggest they follow?
NDV:
There isn’t one gene, there are two main types which must be found together, and the best course of action, for those who want to be certain of their heritage at the outset, would be to contact a reputable commercial genetic laboratory and find out for sure.
Developing powers for their own sake isn’t magic, it’s greed, and greed and ambition are the destroyers of transcendent Dragon perception. Power flows naturally for those whose vision is clear, and clear perception will determine that those powers are used with detachment. Jesus said “Seek ye first the kingdom of God and all these things will be added unto you.” The fact of the matter is that to Dragons, Dragon magic is simple and straightforward and fundamentally it relies in discovering simplicity and stillness within the self.
If the reader believes they are of the Dragon Blood and they wish to explore the transcendent concept, in lieu of a lengthy explanation for which there isn’t space within the confines of this interview, I would recommend a little book entitled The First and Last Freedom![]()
, written by Jiddu Krishnamurti.
TT:
What is the history of the Dragon Court of which you are the sovereign head? Did you inherit this title, and if so, who from?
NDV:
The Imperial and Royal Dragon Court appears repeatedly throughout the history of my family. It is the physical, cultural manifestation of the Dragon spirit inherent within the Vere Dragon blood, reaching back long before the time of Christ.
Briefly, to give a few examples, in more recent times it was the Royal Court of the Dragon Princess Milouziana from whom we are descended in numerous lines, and later it was the fairy Court of Alberic de Vere, the legendary Oberon.
Immediately following Alberic it was the Court of his son, Robert de Vere earl of Huntingdon, who was the historical Robin Hood; the elven, sacral priest-king of the witches. Later the Dragon Court was manifest in the “Thirteen Covens of Mid-Lothian,” and in the cabal of Lady Somerville, the witch-mother of Thomas of Edinburgh. Thomas was the grandson of Sir William Vere of Stonebyres and the elvin, Dragon priest-king of the Thirteen Covens.
Sir William was the son of James, 7th Baron Blackwood. Lady Jane Somerville’s heraldic family badge is recorded as the fiery dragon surmounting the pentacle, denoting Dragon blood in the House of the Somerville earls.
Notably in our family the Dragon Court is also derived from the Court of the Pendragon Kings whose lineage we inherit through numerous marital alliances with our close cousins the Dukes of Hamilton, whose estates bordered our own in Lanarkshire. The Hamiltons were the heirs presumptive to the throne of Scotland.
Lateral inheritance from the extinct cadet cousin branch of the Vere earls of Oxford brings to the contemporary Court, via the 11th earl Richard de Vere, the degree of Societas Draconis — latterly misnamed “Sarkany Rend” — a membership bestowed upon him, it is believed academically, during his investiture into the Prince’s Degree of the Order of the Garter, along with the Emperor Sigismund of Luxembourg, at St. George’s Chapel, Windsor Castle.
The heraldry of the family prior to Richard’s investiture into Societas Draconis already included the ancient Dragon motifs on both the paternal and maternal sides of the family, denoting pure Dragon blood in both descents, and reflecting the continuing presence of the Dragon Court in the family since the time of Princess Milouziana of the Scythians.
The contemporary Dragon Court is furthermore a combination of what Aleister Crowley would term several “currents,” of which the major external one to the family proper was bestowed via the Black Country Covenant of the Baphometic Order of the Cubic Stone, who trace their origins back to the Knights Templars. This was given in recognition of my family’s hereditary involvement in Royal Witchcraft and the historical Dragon tradition. Other external currents derive from the Knighthood of the Plantagenet Clan Donnachaid, Dragon cousins to the House of Vere, and laterally from Dr John Dee’s “School of Night,” of which Edward de Vere, the seventeenth earl of Oxford, was a prominent member. Edward also performed the rites of Dragon kingship in the family, specifically the rite of the kingship of the Calle Daouine.
Down the centuries the Royal Dragon Court is carried continuously in the Vere Dragon Blood.
It would be correct to say I inherited the Dragon Court by virtue of being a senior blood descendant of the House of Vere, and I am recognized as a Dragon sovereign by the other senior members of the family. Academic sources and references pertaining to these Dragon descents will be published with the book.
TT:
How can one become a member of the Dragon Court, and once a member, what does one do? What is the current function of the Dragon Court?
NDV:
Today the Court consists of participating family members here and in Ireland. In addition to these, we have emeritus officers whose functions are invaluable to the running of the Court.
One of the current, “outer” functions of the Dragon Court is as the custodian of the Dragon tradition within the Vere family, which includes the continuing study of the history and genealogy of its various branches, and the amendment of records as fresh knowledge comes to light.
Membership of the Dragon Court is given rarely. We are not a joining club, nor do we operate for monetary gain in any sense. As time passes the Dragon Ethos demands that the Dragon Court change and develop according to expediency. In the future we may well expand the membership of the Court to take in new Dragon members or to expand the number of emeritus officers.
TT:
Many people have ascribed to you a radical political agenda, and say that you are trying to use your genealogy as a springboard for a bid for the throne of England, and other such nonsense. What is your response to these claims?
NDV:
I cannot take such assertions seriously. The educated reader will already know that the House of Vere fielded over twenty prominent earls in an unbroken line over 561 years of British history. The House of Vere was credited with being the senior bloodline of England, both by its contemporaries and by later historians, and the Veres acted for centuries as Great Chamberlains to the various royal dynasties that came and went over time. As Great Chamberlains they were the closest advisors to the monarchs and were therefore the major influence or power behind the British throne.
In all this time the family never considered it expedient to stoop to pick up the Crown, as the House of Vere was above such considerations. It is apparent, given the family’s pre-eminently powerful and influential historical position within British society, that the English monarchy was a trivia beneath the dignity and ambition of the House. I see no reason to change that opinion today, so as you say, the notion that I would demean myself by making a bid for the throne is utter nonsense. We have standards to maintain in this family.
In any event the monarchical system in Britain is, to the greatest extent, impotent, and so if one wanted real political power, the last place one would find it would be on the throne of England.
I quote as follows:
We have no need for thrones or crowns to remind us of who we are.
TT:
Are you a monarchist?
NDV:
By definition Stalin was a “monarch,” as were all the presidents of the United States. By such a definition I cannot be said to be a monarchist per se. I am only a royalist with the greatest of qualifications because not all who contemporarily claim to be royal or those who have occupied the positions of royalty in history have actually been of royal blood.
TT:
How do you feel about the current British monarchy?
NDV:
I have no feelings about them one way or another. They have a tendency to frighten the hell out of British wildlife during the hunting season but in other respects they seem harmless enough, so I see no real reason not to leave them where they are. What would you replace them with anyway? President Blair? What a scary thought.
TT:
There are a lot of wild theories being bandied about on the internet regarding the agenda of the Dragon Court. New World Order: The Movie
regards the Dragon Court as part of an Illuminati conspiracy involving Satanism and Nazism. Heeding Bible Prophecy
seems to proclaim nothing less than that the scion of the Devil — the Anti-Christ himself — will emerge from the ranks of the Dragon Court. David Icke and Arizona Wilder
claim that your former co-author (and former Dragon Court member), Laurence Gardner, shape-shifted into a reptile and sacrificed babies in an underground military base at Montauk, New York. How close are these claims to the truth? What sinister activities are you hiding, Mr. de Vere?
NDV:
People think that the Anti-Christ will emerge from the ranks of the Dragon Court? How intuitive of them.
My views on Nazism are well known. Nazism was a peasant movement populated by the worst in German peasant scum. Its “Aryan” philosophy and aspirations were a complete joke, and its blind devotion to nationalistic jingoism was the height of psychological blindness and wishful thinking. You can’t make genetic Aryans — a race of kings — out of a nation of genetic turnip-peasants.
As for Satanism, if we mean adherence to Satan as some externalised deity separate from the Dragon blood and the object of religious devotion, such is an illogical nonsense. Originally the Satans in Biblical terms were nothing more than Circuit Prosecutors within the Jewish Theocratic system. Who in their right mind would worship lawyers? I wish people would study the facts. It would save so much time and energy.
David Icke![]()
, dear, oh dear, oh dear. David once announced on his website that Laurence Gardner and his cronies performed blood-drinking rituals at his “Columba House.” Before uttering this ridiculous libel David should have contacted the Post Office and checked as to where “Columba House” was actually situated. If he had have done the Post Office would quite happily have told him that “Columba House” was in fact a six inch by twelve inch Post Office Box at the local Post Office Branch in Tiverton, Devon. Exactly how many shape-shifting reptilian vampires and their victims can you get into a standard British Post Office Box?
Having all shape-shifted into reptilian vampires, David Icke![]()
would then have us believe that they all shrunk to the size of Minnie Mouse and got a postal worker to put them in the box. If the reader thinks this is possible or even probable, and I am sure that some who stay glued to the Internet all day will, then it is also entirely possible that the reader will believe that Laurence Gardner sacrificed babies at Montauk.
David Icke is concocting all this out of his cynical, fiscally motivated imagination and flogging it to a willing audience who, frighteningly enough, actually swallow it whole.
What sinister activities am I hiding? The internal activities of the Court are confidential.
TT:
What are your personal beliefs regarding God, spirituality, and religion?
NDV:
“Beliefs” regarding God and spirituality create religions, and religions create division and fear, within the individual and consequently within society as a whole. Religion is a crutch for the power hungry, the lazy, the weak minded and the unregenerate. Religions happen when people don’t get the point of the message and blindly worship the message and the messenger, instead of grasping the gnosis inherent within the words that the message conveys.
TT:
Who, in your opinion, was the Judeo-Christian god Jehovah? Do you believe that there is any historical basis behind the symbolic notion of Jehovah’s conflict with Satan?
NDV:
The Jews got the main tenets of their religion from the Babylonians during the exile. Therefore one can say that although the later Jehovah is a composite, his main attributes can be traced back to the god Enlil, and it was Enlil who started a war with his step-brother Enki concerning their individual number-ranking and seniority of position within the Anunnaki dynasty. So in general terms we can say that the conflict between Jehovah and Satan originated in a petty family squabble.
TT:
What is your opinion of Christ and his ministry?
NDV:
A pretty good one.
TT:
What is your opinion of the Wiccan and New Age movements?
NDV:
Again my views of the Wiccan and New Age movements are also well known. Wicca, the so-called “Old Religion” is no more than sixty years old and the New Age movement is nothing more than a baseless, cynical marketing ploy geared towards extracting money from the gullible.
TT:
How do you feel about the sudden surge of interest in the “Grail bloodline” following the publication of The Da Vinci Code![]()
? Do you think that the popularization of the idea is dangerous?
NDV:
Some people, the minority, will maintain their interest and study the subject further, whilst the bulk of readers will treat the book as a novel experience and pass on to other subjects, once their curiosity has been satisfied. This happens with every new publication. The only inherent danger would be to the subject itself, once the money-vampires of the New Age get hold of it and try opening weekend workshops in “How to become a member of the Grail Bloodline.” It would then get promoted and marketed as a “lifestyle choice” open to all. Once such familiarity has bred the inevitable public contempt, the subject may well be rendered valueless to the new enquirer.
In this vein I note with derision that a group of uneducated homosexual activists in Denver, Colorado called the “Radical Faeries”, a “fast-growing circle of energetic earth-centered Gay men who meet for community,” have opened up courses in “Faerie Arts and Craft-A-Rama,” complete with coffee mornings. Thank you for passing their information sheet on to me. I read half of it and promptly threw it in the trash can. Truly these days everything is for sale and as a commodity, the sacred becomes profane.
TT:
What is the one most important thing you want people to take away after reading The Dragon Legacy![]()
?
Firstly, one of the central themes of the book is transcendent consciousness. I would like to feel that the reader may derive some interest in this concept from reading The Dragon Legacy![]()
and will pursue the subject further.
Secondly, the Dragon families have been with us for millennia and, in the course of time, their innate and rightful destiny will cause them to rise again.
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Царство Мое не от мира сего: Интервью с князем Николаем де Вере фон Drakenberg
Трейси Р. Твимэн
Первоначально написанный для Paranoia Magazine, Copyright 2004
(Не обязательно отражает текущую точку обзора автора.)
Так же , как работа Майкла Бейджент, Ричард Ли и Генри Линкольн представил исследование "Грааль родословной" в англо-Америке в 1980-е годы, так что есть работа двух лиц пересматривал рамки данного исследования в более поздние годы. Но в то время как более известный Лоренс Гарднер получил известность, состояние, награды, а также многочисленные книжные контракты в качестве вознаграждения за свою работу, меньшая известная фигура скрывалось тихо ионному тени вплоть до настоящего времени. Как Суверенного Великого Мастера императорского и королевского дракона суда и порядок, князь Николай де Вер фон Drakenberg обеспечил вдохновение, исследование, и изрядную часть письма для Гарднера Бытие Грааля Kings и царству кольца лордов , Тем не менее , удивительно, де Вер не указан как соавтор многих изданиях Бытия , И не получает кредит на всех в кольцо лордов , Обе эти книги, зачисленных на Лоренса Гарднера, основаны почти исключительно на тексте из Трансильвании в Танбридж Уэллс, Николас де Вер, недавно опубликованной в книге Дерево под названием Дракон Legacy: Тайная история Древнего Рода.
Но есть много в оригинальном тексте де Вер, который не найти в версии Гарднера, и есть аутентичность де работы Вере, в вытекает из того факта, что он является истинным наследником и хранителем этой традиции - традиции Дракон , также известный как традиции Грааля. Де Вер провел два десятилетия, углубляясь в историю, мифологии, науки, религии, и его собственные семейные архивы, чтобы собрать то, что, пожалуй, самый обширный и глубокий текст на эту тему когда-либо опубликованных. Что де Вер придумал достаточно, чтобы содержать не только другой поп-культуры мания, но совершенно новое богословие, с новой философией и политикой, а также. Но де Вер явно не из разбогатеть или быть популярным, так как он уже недополученные многочисленные возможности для получения обоих. Описывая элитного генетического штамма человечества, который нисходит из супер-человеческой расы, и который обладает способностями, недоступные для тех, кто за пределами этого штамма, не совсем билет на всеобщее лести. Напротив, утверждения де Вер в отношении элитного статуса линии крови дракона заклеймили его совершенно неприемлема для викканскую и New Age общин, которые иначе были бы в числе наиболее открытыми для своего сообщения. Возникает вопрос: почему Николас де Вер провел последние двадцать лет своей жизни на этой грандиозной задачи, и почему он продолжать делать это?
Я знал Николая де пять лет, и, несмотря на то, что утверждают некоторые скептики, я нашел его на удивление скромным, самоотверженным, анти-материалистическая, а порой честны. Он представительный, обаятельная, искренняя, и нисколько не тщеславны, даже зная, что его письмо пересмотрела всю область исследований, что он является главой элитного оккультного порядка с происхождением уходящие тамплиерами, и что он имеет потенциал претендовать на несколько важных королевских титулов. Это, некоторые из них предполагается, является реальной мотивацией за его работой. Некоторые считают, что де Вер хочет быть королем Англии или Франции, утверждение, что он категорически отрицает. Другие видят в де Вер кандидата на не меньше, чем самого антихриста, и увидеть в Dragon суд международного сатанинского заговора где-то на уровне между Ordo Templi Orientis и Бильдербергский клуб. Но в то время это правда , что, когда Великий Дракон Откровения действительно возникают , чтобы завладеть миром, он, несомненно , будет кровь дракона, и даже может быть членом Суда, князь Николай де Вер, конечно , не он. Я уверен, что он будет смиренно признать себя, миссия де Вер является просто подготовить путь Тот, кто еще впереди. Слушай, тогда, дорогие читатели, голос вопиющего в пустыне.
TT: Каково ваше образование? Какие карьеры вы преследовали в прошлом?
NDV: Я получил образование в британской эквивалент "выпускник средней школы» с квалификацией в английском праве, английский язык, искусства, социологии и экономики бизнеса. У меня есть еще одно Королевское общество искусств квалификацию на английском языке. Я провел два периода при Университете Брайтона и Coleg Кередигиона, где я изучал английский язык и печать, а затем права, социологии и политики.
Мои основные карьеры были в:
Военный, где я служил большую часть своего времени в Северной Ирландии конфликта и был награжден медалью кампании службы.
в частных охранных предприятий. Я был управляющим директором моей собственной компании и обеспечивали безопасность для различных национальных и всемирно известных компаний, таких как Virgin.
TT: Какова история вашей карьеры в профессиональном неигрового письменном виде?
NDV: Я начал писать всерьез в 1985 году и в конце концов убедили опубликовать направленность моей работы в Интернете в 1999 году.
TT: Как давно вы пишете дракон Наследие ?
NDV:. Около шести лет назад Дракон Наследие был известен в сети , как От Трансильвании до Танбридж и это было резюме многолетних исследований и размышлений. Некоторые из них появились в Лоренса Гарднера Бытие Грааля Kings а затем после того, как я опубликовал его в Интернете, Лоуренс на основе его третья книга царству Ring Лордов в значительной степени от того, что я уже опубликовал.
TT: Каковы были ваши основные источники информации при составлении книги?
NDV: На так называемый Дракон "путь" один проникнут наследственно с возможностями Дракон в той или иной меры. Как и прогрессирует эти возможности воска и уменьшаться в соответствии с необходимостью. Одной из основных возможностей является процесс Derkesthai, в котором информация "направляется" через трубопровод архетипа дракона; в частности, расовое сознание тех, кто крови дракона. С помощью этого процесса можно подобрать, естественно, все виды информации, касающейся различных аспектов Традиции Дракона в его многочисленных и различных отраслях и проявлениях. Тем не менее, это не имеет смысла интеллектуально и рационально без обоснованного академического подтверждения и подтверждения.
С этой целью другой емкости дракона, чтобы иметь возможность получить после того, как тот факт, обязывал эти Подтверждения. Я ожидал работы, прежде чем я прочитал их, либо с помощью медитации или через опыт на Пути Дракона. В не слишком отличающемся образом Kerkule открыл «Bezine кольцо».
Я бы сказал , что серьезная академическая основа Дракона Наследие с точки зрения подтверждения и подтверждения, заключается в работе д-ра Дэвида Баркера; Джордж Вудкок; Лисандр Спунер; Профессор Миранда Грин; Пьер Прудон; Профессора Pierpaoli и Регельсон; Дэвид Андерсон; Оксфордский словарь английского языка и старый соратник г-н К. Мюррей Холл МА (преподаватель варварских культур: Sussex University).
TT: Как вы начали исследование в истории вашей семьи? В какой момент в вашей жизни вы узнали о "наследии" Дракон в вашей семье? Это то, что вы росли?
NDV: В возрасте семи лет, начиная мой отец рассказывал мне о нашей родословной, родословной погруженного в королевской крови и наиболее значительной из всех в том , что называется Royal колдовства, который является одним из основных, древний, драконовские, друидов фасет продолжается в течение более поздней истории традиции Dragon и в семье Вере.
Мой отец образованный меня о наших конкретных истоков в царской и благородной Blackwood семье Ланарка, Шотландия. Эта династия хряков самым значительным практиком традиции Дракона в свое время: майор Томас Вейр из Вере Эдинбурга, мой 11-прадеда.
Как ведьма господин и принц-консорт к эльфийской королевы диалект южной части Шотландии, Томас исполнял древние гэльские обряды священного сана Эпоны, и, следовательно, основал этот обряд сана в моей родословной. Так что я получил традиции в раннем возрасте от моего отца, и он получил его от своего отца, и так далее.
TT: Ваше формальное название ". Князь Николай де Вер" Что это название подразумевает?
NDV: Для того, чтобы ответить на ваш вопрос я вставленное в отрывке из "Герцогство Angiers" генеалогического таблицы графиков древний, королевский спуск Дракона Дома Вере , которая, как вы знаете, в скором времени будет опубликован с полным набором поддержки исторические и современные научные источники.
Я цитирую:
"Королевский Дом Вер - старший Анжуйский Дом оригинальной« князей и графов Анжу »- это последнее из Бретоном и фламандской добычи и бывшего старшего, шотландского отделения; Надежда-Вере из Blackwood, традиционно наблюдается фламандский закон Noblesse утробного и matrilinear и семейное наследство в соответствии с знатного шотландского семейного права, который исторически и современно поддерживает спуск крови.
Названия PRINCEPS Драконис и принца де Вер, в настоящее время удерживаются Николас де Вер, признаются в качестве иностранных названий в секретных файлах, проводимых Департаментом правительства Великобритании внутренних дел: «Домашний офис» и зарегистрированы с ними, как "Официальные наблюдения" , Право Fons honorum провел Николас де Вер также признается правительством Ее Величества. Эти названия признаны наиболее старших ветвей Дома Вере.
Николас де Вер, хотя принимая существование как с какой-то значительной квалификации, не претендует быть либо членом современной британской королевской семьи или его пэра в каком-то смысле, и не претендует на статус или ранг наводит на мысль о таких или приходящихся сем. Княжеств Вере не современные, социальное происхождение названия; либо предполагаемая или дарила, ибо либо, политической целесообразности.
Княжеств Вере древние культурные проявления генетических качеств, проведенных в исторической Эльфов Крови Royal. Основанная в Angiers, Франция, в 740 объявлении в качестве императорского и королевского дома, вытекающие из гораздо старше сакрально-королевски, пиктов, Скифа Vere истоки коренятся в древности, Дом Вере академически записывается в одном имени и в непрерывной линии для более одна тысяча триста лет, и, следовательно, является одним из старейших сохранившихся королевских династий в Европе ".
Поэтому я проследить мой родословную в неразрывной линии крови к имперским князем Мило де Вер графа Анжу в 740 г. н.э., сын княгини Milouziana скифов. Она была записана по всей Франции как эльфийского, Дракон принцессы шотландского пиктов, и ее Внук Майло II получил свое Меровингов происхождение по семейному союзу его отца с императорским домом Шарлин.
Позже в истории мы подобрали множество других линий Меровингов происхождения и отношения в доме Вере сегодня как здесь, так и в Ирландии, отражает то, что самих Меровингов, где касается наследования и кровь происхождения.
Что касается моей материнской линии: мать моя происходит от древнего Коллисон ярлов Норфолк, а третий двоюродный брат главы Дома Вере. Мы очень сплоченная семья. Глава самого дома является королевского Коллисон спуска и это matrilinear извлечение Коллисон также вытекает из древнего Дома Вере и княжне Milouziana скифов. Мы Верес со всех сторон семьи.
Общая глава Палаты Вере сегодня является принц Mhaior. Папскими инвеституру и по наследству из Дома королевских O'Brien потомков короля Брайана Бору Тары, принц Mhaior сам является эрцгерцог - не ничтожное ирландский граф, как некоторые совершенно неосведомленный недовольный однажды торжествующе провозгласил в смешной , неудачной попытки на разоблачение меня.
Глава Дома, формально обращается ко мне, как "Дракон" Принц Дома Вере.
TT: Кто такие "драконов" , которые вы пишете о в своей книге ?
NDV: Вкратце записанная Dragon родословная начинается с Аннунаках и спускается через прото-скифов, шумеров в одной отрасли и ранних египтян в другой; финикийцы, тем Mittani, обратно к скифам снова через брачного союза, а также к "Племена богини Дану" и Фир Болг; вниз через их семьи Арх-друидов, жрецов-княжеских к королевскому пиктов Шотландии и высоких королей лошади лордов Даль Риада; вплоть до династии Эльфов из Пендрагон и Avallon дель Acqs, и вплоть до нескольких чистопородный семьи сегодня.
TT: Были ли драконы первоначально отдельный вид от того, что мы назвали бы «человеческим»?
NDV: Дракон традиции , связанные со всеми текущей генетической и исторических свидетельств говорит да , они были. Оба относительно недавно и древние счета Драконы или Эльфы, возвращаясь к Аннунаками говорить о них как имеющие четко определенные физические атрибуты, и эти атрибуты наследуются от видов, которые ученые утверждают теперь предшествовал человеческий генетический узкое место около тридцати тысяч лет. Эти атрибуты не являются человеческими в общепринятом смысле. Является ли это древняя раса гибридизировали с другим перед историей можно только догадываться, но их позже гибридизация производить эльфийского Богом Короли и Ring господствующих (Король племя), четко фиксируется в цилиндре Rolls.
TT: Являются ли эти драконы такие же , как в "Нефилим" Библии или "Watchers" из Книги Еноха ?
NDV: Нефилимы и Watchers являются гонки Dragon, да.
TT: Могли ли боги древних культур (Греция, Индия, Шумера и т.д.) Драконов?
NDV: Эти пантеонов получены друг от друга так , снова ответ на упрощенно да.
TT: Какой цивилизации сделал Драконы царствовать над? Можете ли вы сказать, что это был такой же, как атлантической или допотопной цивилизации?
". Ogdoad": НДВ Теория Платона Атлантида предшествует гораздо более древней традиции , относящейся к Огдоаде, священным для самого Иисуса, было восемь великих богов , которые кромсали священная гора - "Атлантис" - после первоначального потопа. Это наводнение произошло в Черном море и горы Святого, так затоплены, как полагали, был Понт Euxine. По-видимому, огдоада потерпели неудачу в своей попытке принести плодородие обратно в святом месте, и отказались от него в течение жизни странствующего планеты. Это, вероятно, почему легенда о потопе распространилась и могут быть найдены в большинстве культур.
Огдоаде свою очередь, в китайском мифе, в ранних египетских религиозных текстов, и даже в гораздо более поздний викингов легенда, где, как говорили боги асы, покинули гору Священную после потопа. Из Огдоаде, которые первыми Дракон королей-богов древнего прото-Скифии, мы получаем богов Аннунаки, а те, которые позже пантеонами, полученные из них. Не подлежит сомнению, что после потопа дети ануннаками создали невероятные цивилизации в свое время, так что я полагаю, вы могли бы сказать, что культуры шумеров (чей язык, называемый "прото-шумерской," возникла в Трансильвании) , египтяне и даже ранние поселенцы в северной Европе вытекает из и отражает допотопный прототип, намного старше до Потопа "Золотой век" под председательством древних драконов королей-богов и богинь-цариц. Ошибкой было бы поставить атлантов период слишком далеко назад во времени и найти Атлантиду, где Платон сделал. Ученые доказали, библейский потоп, чтобы быть в Черном море, и этот регион, где большинство Титаника и олимпийца сагах, связанных с рассветом богов, разворачиваться.
TT: Является ли Дракон крови истинный источник божественного права сана, по вашему мнению? Являются ли драконы законные правители правительств мира?
NDV: Издревле Дракон крови, кровь богов есть истинный источник божественного права сана. Сказать, что драконы являются полноправными правителями мира Сегодня правительства могли бы поднять некоторые утверждения. Возможно, было бы более реалистично предположить, что они вполне могут быть законными правителями правительств мира в будущем.
TT: Существует много написано в вашей книге о Каине. Какова его роль в истории родословной дракона?
NDV: Каин был потомком богов, а не Адама. Он был воспитан, чтобы быть прародителем расы королей-богов над человеком. С точки зрения происхождения поздних драконов, он является отцом гонки.
TT: А как насчет Isis / Венеры? Какова ее роль?
NDV: пантеонах наложились , но по существу Isis, в ее египетской форме, относится к своему сельскохозяйственному-астрономическая метафора, хотя в ее архаической форме она берет свое начало из династии Ануннаки. Более поздние проявления Венеры представляет собой процесс, принадлежащий по существу, к более поздней Грааля этоса. Коротко говоря, Венера Падающая звезда - Люцифер - и короче говоря, что звезда в своем падении с небес на землю символизирует, Микрокосмически, спуск священных эссенции из мозга жрицы Дракона в ее лоно, какой орган является физическое, биологическая реальность, стоящая за символом Святого Грааля, котел изобилия и так далее.
Для выяснения, Kabbalistically и герметически, мы имеем образ божественного женского - Софии - хотя у нее есть много других имен, как на космическом и человеческом уровне. Космос думали повторить идеальную человеческую форму на универсальном масштабе.
Macrocosmically - Выше - небо или звезды представлены Кетер, глава фигуры. Из Кетер Кубический камень в виде Люцифера, божественного вдохновения, падает на Землю Малкут, рождение cannal Космического существа.
Микрокосмически - Внизу - София воплощен в женском Dragon и ее голова покоится в Кетер, ее чрево лежит в Йесод и ее родовые пути лежит в Малкут. Микрокосмически процесс спуска божественного вдохновения с небес на Землю повторяется поэтому в спуске божественного, вдохновляя эссенции от Кетер к Малкут в женской форме.
Мужчина каббалистический коллега как на космическом и человеческом уровне был Адам Кадмон, идеальное сочетание смертного и божественного, через которого святая мудрость была придана и внутри которого Люцифер - змея или молнии этого божественного вдохновения - произошли от Кетер, который был божественный дух, проживающих в голове, чтобы Tiphareth смертный душу человека покоится в сердце, а оттуда, через святое пророчество, жителям мировой сферы.
В каббалистической трактов Космический или универсальный Христос был Tiphareth, который был мужской аналог кубического камня. В мистических христианских терминах Иисус Христос, как Тиферет, был одновременно проявлением и вместилище трансцендентного Люциферианского вдохновения.
Действительно, в библейском Откровении Иоанна, Иисус назван "Яркое сын зари" , который является Люцифер или Венера, Falling Star. Он также называется библейски как второй Адам, сын Божий, и отражает этот Христос рассматривался в Каббале как Адам Кадмон, божественного человеческого существа. Как Люцифера, в более поздних ортодоксальных христианских круга ведения, любопытным твист логики он, следовательно, воплощает в себе и Христа и Антихриста, поколение и разрушения, Ормузда и Аримана, света и тьмы. Он не дивились таким образом, что Антихрист в последние дни будут возникать с самого родословной самого Христа.
Таким образом, в некоторых гностических бинарными традиции Иисус был двудольным идентифицируется как мужской аналог кубического камня и сосуд Божьей мудрости на Земле. Из-за этого, от древности до наших дней и по сей день, его миф стал соединился с этим Святого Грааля. Однако и его божественные символические происхождение и священные атрибуты, и его родословная - воплотивших эти священные атрибуты - намного старше и остановить весь путь обратно к ануннаков, как к Энлиля и Энки, таким образом, чтобы "Бог" и "Дьявол".
По этой причине, ведьмы средневековой Европы почитали его как "Предшественник" ( "предок"), и как "сын Христос Dei," двойственного бога света и тьмы, добра и зла, отпрыском Бога и Сатаны. В классическом повороте библейской истории и как продолжение ранее гностической темы они считали Иегова окончательный бог зла, демиург. Санкт-Columba называют Иисуса "Мо Drui, Mac Dei" - ". Мой друид, Сын Божий" В гэльском, "друид" означает "ведьма" и "колдовство" является прямым потомком Druidism. Эта точка зрения Христа поддерживается в древнем христианском "Письмо в Ceretius."
TT: Когда вы смотрите метафорически "Дракона" , что именно вы имеете в виду?
"Дракон" это термин я использую, как правило, означает дракон архетип отдыхает в крови дракона и передается через гены. Это трубопровод, через который текут воспоминания о мудрости и опыта Драконов, кто ушел раньше. Слово "дракон" происходит от "edrakon" греческого, который является аорист слова "derkesthai", что означает "ясно видеть". Поэтому "Дракон" является унаследованная Дракон архетипа и что архетип является проводником ясного зрения, через который течет расовая знания. Очистить зрение также и главным образом относится к трансцендентным сознание.
TT: Какой процент от мирового населения бы вы сказали , обладает этим кровь дракона? Является ли он преимущественно находится в определенных типов людей? Как вы можете сказать дракона от других типов людей?
NDV: Примерно десять процентов европейцев имеют драконьей крови, и проистекают из семей , чьи физические признаки явно указывают на генетическое наследование более 100 000 лет. Этот показатель рассчитывается на основе исследований, вытекающих из исследований Оксфордского университета и соответствуют историческим счетам.
TT: Как начать гонки дракона, и как они стали отдельной расы от остального человечества?
NDV: Они не происходят из космического пространства, это точно. Основной элемент генома дракона возник в обширных лесах Центральной Европы, и отрезаны от других видов, они разработали в качестве отдельной расы. К тому времени ануннаков они были гибридизуют с образованием предков поздних Elves или Дракона королей и королев.
TT: Когда мы впервые встретились вы мне сказали об исследовательском проекте , что некоторые университет делает , чтобы попытаться определить "гены дракона" в людях. Что именно этот проект, и он по-прежнему происходит сегодня?
NDV: Чтобы ответить на этот вопрос , я снова вставить отрывок из "герцогства Angiers" таблицы здесь и развить идею впоследствии.
Я цитирую:
"Отношения между князем Mhaior , который, по происхождению Normanised, является главой ирландского Дома Вере и Николас де Вер; который - по гэльского крови происхождения - это начальник Тайрон Kildress отделения является то , что 4 - го и 14 - го кузенов. Оба разделяют различные идентичные гены. Найдено только 3% и 6% клинических образцов , испытанных в Великобритании, Николас де Вер и глава Дома в Эйре разделяют два набора редких генов каждый. Принц Mhaior является добычи Royal Коллисон и Николас де Вер имеет дополнительный набор этих генов из матрилинейной происхождения , которая также поддерживает спуск Royal Коллисон из Норфолка в своей родословной и повторяет селективных и эксклюзивные королевские и благородные брачные союзы , которые продолжались на протяжении всей истории Дома Вере.
Дом Weir и Вере изначально введен в эксплуатацию генетические тесты должны быть предприняты, чтобы подтвердить, помимо всего прочего, точной степени родства между их соответствующими линиями, а также с целью выяснения аномалий в генеалогии, которые неизбежно ползать в записи, как туманы времени закупоривать прошлое. Это было достигнуто успешно, и некоторые записи были внесены поправки, отражающие генетические результаты как в Николаевском родословной и что другого из его двоюродных братьев Vere в Ирландии, подтверждая, что Николаевский спуск является одним из старших родословных Дома Вере.
Тем не менее, генетический состав Дома Вере проявляясь из поколения в поколение оказалось настолько необычным, что, вне сферы компетенции первоначальной комиссии по семье, Департамент Haemogenetics Лондонского университета принял Верес в качестве специального изучения дела. На данном этапе исследования Конференция Представление документа было представлено до доставки медицинского документа на предстоящем симпозиуме по генетике в Соединенных Штатах, видный профессор в отделе, который является международно признанным пионером в области генетики. Другие расовые и митохондриальные исследования семьи Вере запланированы отделом ".
В основном было установлено, Верес, чтобы иметь больше генов, чем у обычных людей. Семейство исследование продолжается.
Что касается генов дракона, они были идентифицированы в результате научных исследований, вытекающих из обоих Лондонского университета и Оксфордского университета. Этот аспект проекта был завершен. Есть два основных типа генов, которые идут, чтобы составить современный дракона.
TT: драконы обладают "магические" силы ли? Если да, то их потомки обладают ими, а?
NDV: Это зависит от того, что вы имеете в виду Самая большая магия все , чтобы иметь возможность , естественно , до сих пор его ум до точки , где можно увидеть , что , как естественный ход событий , вытекающих из трансцендентного "волшебный". "Все акты магические действия." восприятие, некоторые объекты находятся в пределах досягаемости Драконов. Эти способности, хотя они различаются, являются наследственными.
TT: Ваш бывший соавтор Лоренс Гарднер много пишет о "Starfire" и сила шишковидной выделениями, которые изображаются как аналог Эликсир жизни или философский камень, даря повышенной способности мозга, магические способности, и длительной жизни на тот, кто потребляет его. Это элементы, которые он явно заберут из исследования. В Вашем письме, Вы утверждаете, что люди "Дракон крови" являются единственными био-химически оборудованных для производства этих веществ в их собственных телах на достаточно высоком уровне, чтобы получить результаты. Но Гарднер написал много об этом так называемый "одноатомного золота", и, кажется, думает, что это синтетический заменитель "Starfire", которые обычные люди могут потреблять, чтобы стать драконами сами. Вы знаете что-нибудь об этом веществе? Что Вы скажете по теории г Гарднера?
NDV: Во - первых , физические, гормональные элементы Starfire только одна сторона этой истории, и в своей книге я четко заявить , что весь процесс содержит несколько других "психо-соматические» элементы, не в последнюю очередь , что относящиеся к отношениям.
Что же касается возможности поп-таблетку, чтобы стать драконом, такой глупой отношения New Age проистекает из нелепого, полностью несостоятельной жадность инициативе свободного рынка утверждение, что любой человек может стать что-либо они выбирают, и совершенно необоснованное представление PC, что все равны.
Такого рода жалким либерализма, рождается как реакция на социально прививается менталитет жертвы, должны быть гнушалась всеми разумными существами, и поэтому мое отношение к концепции одноатомного золота как большой социальный уравнитель и эквалайзером является одним из презрения.
Тем не менее, вы не делаете много денег, говоря большую часть ваших читателей, что они генетически исключены из процесса они не могут испытать или понять; вы продаете New Age бессмыслицу, говоря Простодушный, что все они могут принять любую роль, которую они хотели, и принять любой модный образ жизни "" выбор, который прихотью и лживые рекламные диктату. Как вы знаете, я не пишу, чтобы заработать деньги, так что я не все равно, кто я оскорбляю с истиной. Могу ли я поп таблетку, чтобы превратить меня в черный афро Масаи воин? Нет. Есть ли порошок я могу предпринять, чтобы изменить меня в женщину? Конечно нет. Я не вижу необходимости в одноатомного золота сам. "Starfire" и Серафическое отношения работали отлично для меня, и в любом случае вы либо генетически Дракон или нет, и никакое количество одноатомного золота не собирается изменить свой генетический состав.
TT: Что было первоначальное значение и цель вампиризма?
NDV: Vampire происходит от слова "VBER" или "убер" , и означает , что она берет свое начало в Анатолии "ведьму" . расположение семи ежегодных друидических собраний: The Nemetons. "Ведьма" на гэльском языке является "Druidhe" или "друид". С практической точки зрения и предложил термин "убер" само по себе, скифское друид был повелителем, и поэтому первоначально вампир был повелителем, и, следовательно, Дракон.
Цель вампиризме зависит от типа вампиризме практикуемой. Starfire была цель "Royal" или друидов вампиризма в древних скифских семей, и в скифских "воин" вампиризм пить кровь павших братьев в бою был предназначен, чтобы принять их сущность и отвагу в реципиент. Кровь поверженных врагов тоже был пьян. В обоих случаях это также имел преимущество доливки свои уровни адреналина и тестостерона в пылу конфликта. Фольклорный образ вампира в Европе проистекает из этого исторического корня. Вампиризм был неотъемлемой частью скифского / Dragon жизни.
TT: Каковы значения терминов:
фея
фея
эльф
Гном
друид
арийский
фарисей
Являются ли эти все имена по существу одно и то же, в соответствии с вашей теорией?
NDV: Да, эти термины все связаны с тем же существом и штоком из генома дракона.
Фея = Судьба, и выдвижением контроллер судьбы человека и, следовательно, сюзерена. Во всех счетах фей они королевской крови или происхождения.
Пикси = "Pict Sidhe" или "вздыхать," после того, как привычка скифское / Dragon живописи или нанесения татуировки племенных маркировки на корпусе.
Эльф = "Белый или Сияющий", и относится к физиономии Драконов, как свидетельствуют современные наблюдатели.
Гном = "Wise один"; слово "гном" происходит от греческого корня "GNO," откуда мы получаем слово "Гнозис", что означает мистическую мудрость. Гнома был членом поэтому из расы Гномов или Мудрости, и этот термин является синонимом "арийца"; что означает слово "благородный", также проистекает из того же корня слова, как "Гном" "отпрыска мудрого или благородной расы.": ". Gno" Оттуда мы видим, что гном был дракон.
Друид = Мужчина или женщина от дерева, в частности, древо жизни - скифское Жрица - вниз, которого фильтры эссенции мозга в Грааля сосуда матки.
Арийская = Scion мудрого или благородной расы, смотри выше; другой термин для членов племени царя, где "король", от готического "Kuningjam" означает "отпрыск благородного (мудрый и, следовательно, арийская) раса».
Фарисей = В английском фольклоре "farisee" или "фе." На иврите это происходит от "Parush", что означает "тот, кто установлен в сторону," и, следовательно, выше других.
TT: Как символика Бафомету вписывается в вашей теории?
NDV: Бафомет может быть оценено на нескольких уровнях , в зависимости от вашей точки зрения. К церкви, Бафомет был дьяволом, и в некотором смысле это; поскольку коза, возглавляемые чучело представляет, на одном уровне, Энки; который позже появиться как Шайтана. Энки был известен как "Рам мерцающие воды», и был прототипом Золотого руна. Оказывается, что Бафомет является позже вариация на ту же тему. От Энки и его партнер Lilith мы получаем как Козерог, козел Воды; и Левиафан. В этом смысле можно оценить как глифа, указывающие на происхождение династии Дракона.
To compound this view, on occasion the Baphomet appears with the wings of an angel, and the angel clearly associates the Baphomet — as the badge and progenitor of the Dragon race — with the biblical “sons of God,” the Elohim.
On the alchemical level — in Eliphas Levi's depiction — we have the negation of the gender polarities and individuation within the Seraphic Relationship, a dynamic where, as Arthur Machin, put it “the two Dragons devour each other and another is born; a Phoenix, a Star of Wonder.” In Levi's glyph this process is encapsulated in the words “solve” and “coagula.” The upshot of all this is the psychological death of the “Old Man” of the unregenerate ego and the re-emergence in “the New Man” of transcendent perception and “union with Godhead.” Associated with this we have Baphomet or, as some put it, “Father Mithras.”
As Mithras, Baphomet represents the killing of the 'world bull' of unregenerate perception, from which sacrifice flows the fertility of the freed consciousness. Additionally, Mithras is the balancing medium between the extreme forces of generation and destruction — and therefore represents cosmic balance in the universe and personal detachment in the individual. Here we touch upon the Hermetic doctrine of “As above, so below.” What happens in the cosmos takes place also in man.
In this vein we can see that the Baphomet symbolizes the Beast 666 — man as God — uniting the Earthly nature of man represented as the goat; and the divine element of man as symbolized by the angel's wings. In this glyph we see that the divine is to be found in base nature and base nature is to be found in the divine. The Kabbalists put it as “Kether in Malkuth, and Malkuth in Kether.”
In practical terms it means that Heaven is on Earth and Earth is in Heaven and in reality there is no “path” to tread, no “system” of so-called enlightenment to follow, because it is all here now. Kill the “world bull” of fear and greed; still the mind and the timeless, the eternal, the heavenly becomes apparent here and now on Earth, not in some ethereal “life after death” state to come.
Baphomet, as the legendary head of the Templars, has an earlier correlation in the story of the detached head of the Arch-Druid Bran the Blessed which was also a font of wisdom and fertility. The close association of the Head of Wisdom — the Baphomet — with the Grail is demonstrated in the depiction of the Templar Skull and Cross Bones; the original “Joli Rouges” or “Jolly Roger.” Again this has a Hermetic meaning inasmuch as what is above (in the head) is also below (in the womb, or “Grail”). The head as a Grail symbol derives spiritually from the Celtic belief that the divine soul resided within the head. The severed head — the skull — resting on the crossed bones of the thighs near the pudenda denotes that the head and the womb were both the receptacles of the divine, and were therefore synonymous as symbols of the Holy Grail.
TT: Is the Dragon bloodline a Satanic or Luciferian bloodline?
NDV: Yes is the honest and simple answer.
TT: If a person believes that they have the Dragon gene, and they want to start developing the powers inherent in their blood, what course would you suggest they follow?
NDV: There isn't one gene, there are two main types which must be found together, and the best course of action, for those who want to be certain of their heritage at the outset, would be to contact a reputable commercial genetic laboratory and find out for sure.
Developing powers for their own sake isn't magic, it's greed, and greed and ambition are the destroyers of transcendent Dragon perception. Power flows naturally for those whose vision is clear, and clear perception will determine that those powers are used with detachment. Jesus said “Seek ye first the kingdom of God and all these things will be added unto you.” The fact of the matter is that to Dragons, Dragon magic is simple and straightforward and fundamentally it relies in discovering simplicity and stillness within the self.
If the reader believes they are of the Dragon Blood and they wish to explore the transcendent concept, in lieu of a lengthy explanation for which there isn't space within the confines of this interview, I would recommend a little book entitled The First and Last Freedom , written by Jiddu Krishnamurti.
TT: What is the history of the Dragon Court of which you are the sovereign head? Did you inherit this title, and if so, who from?
NDV: The Imperial and Royal Dragon Court appears repeatedly throughout the history of my family. It is the physical, cultural manifestation of the Dragon spirit inherent within the Vere Dragon blood, reaching back long before the time of Christ.
Briefly, to give a few examples, in more recent times it was the Royal Court of the Dragon Princess Milouziana from whom we are descended in numerous lines, and later it was the fairy Court of Alberic de Vere, the legendary Oberon.
Immediately following Alberic it was the Court of his son, Robert de Vere earl of Huntingdon, who was the historical Robin Hood; the elven, sacral priest-king of the witches. Later the Dragon Court was manifest in the “Thirteen Covens of Mid-Lothian,” and in the cabal of Lady Somerville, the witch-mother of Thomas of Edinburgh. Thomas was the grandson of Sir William Vere of Stonebyres and the elvin, Dragon priest-king of the Thirteen Covens.
Sir William was the son of James, 7th Baron Blackwood. Lady Jane Somerville's heraldic family badge is recorded as the fiery dragon surmounting the pentacle, denoting Dragon blood in the House of the Somerville earls.
Notably in our family the Dragon Court is also derived from the Court of the Pendragon Kings whose lineage we inherit through numerous marital alliances with our close cousins the Dukes of Hamilton, whose estates bordered our own in Lanarkshire. The Hamiltons were the heirs presumptive to the throne of Scotland.
Lateral inheritance from the extinct cadet cousin branch of the Vere earls of Oxford brings to the contemporary Court, via the 11th earl Richard de Vere, the degree of Societas Draconis — latterly misnamed “Sarkany Rend” — a membership bestowed upon him, it is believed academically, during his investiture into the Prince's Degree of the Order of the Garter, along with the Emperor Sigismund of Luxembourg, at St. George's Chapel, Windsor Castle.
The heraldry of the family prior to Richard's investiture into Societas Draconis already included the ancient Dragon motifs on both the paternal and maternal sides of the family, denoting pure Dragon blood in both descents, and reflecting the continuing presence of the Dragon Court in the family since the time of Princess Milouziana of the Scythians.
The contemporary Dragon Court is furthermore a combination of what Aleister Crowley would term several “currents,” of which the major external one to the family proper was bestowed via the Black Country Covenant of the Baphometic Order of the Cubic Stone, who trace their origins back to the Knights Templars. This was given in recognition of my family's hereditary involvement in Royal Witchcraft and the historical Dragon tradition. Other external currents derive from the Knighthood of the Plantagenet Clan Donnachaid, Dragon cousins to the House of Vere, and laterally from Dr John Dee's “School of Night,” of which Edward de Vere, the seventeenth earl of Oxford, was a prominent member. Edward also performed the rites of Dragon kingship in the family, specifically the rite of the kingship of the Calle Daouine.
Down the centuries the Royal Dragon Court is carried continuously in the Vere Dragon Blood.
It would be correct to say I inherited the Dragon Court by virtue of being a senior blood descendant of the House of Vere, and I am recognized as a Dragon sovereign by the other senior members of the family. Academic sources and references pertaining to these Dragon descents will be published with the book.
TT: How can one become a member of the Dragon Court, and once a member, what does one do? What is the current function of the Dragon Court?
NDV: Today the Court consists of participating family members here and in Ireland. In addition to these, we have emeritus officers whose functions are invaluable to the running of the Court.
One of the current, “outer” functions of the Dragon Court is as the custodian of the Dragon tradition within the Vere family, which includes the continuing study of the history and genealogy of its various branches, and the amendment of records as fresh knowledge comes to light.
Membership of the Dragon Court is given rarely. We are not a joining club, nor do we operate for monetary gain in any sense. As time passes the Dragon Ethos demands that the Dragon Court change and develop according to expediency. In the future we may well expand the membership of the Court to take in new Dragon members or to expand the number of emeritus officers.
TT: Many people have ascribed to you a radical political agenda, and say that you are trying to use your genealogy as a springboard for a bid for the throne of England, and other such nonsense. What is your response to these claims?
NDV: I cannot take such assertions seriously. The educated reader will already know that the House of Vere fielded over twenty prominent earls in an unbroken line over 561 years of British history. The House of Vere was credited with being the senior bloodline of England, both by its contemporaries and by later historians, and the Veres acted for centuries as Great Chamberlains to the various royal dynasties that came and went over time. As Great Chamberlains they were the closest advisors to the monarchs and were therefore the major influence or power behind the British throne.
In all this time the family never considered it expedient to stoop to pick up the Crown, as the House of Vere was above such considerations. It is apparent, given the family's pre-eminently powerful and influential historical position within British society, that the English monarchy was a trivia beneath the dignity and ambition of the House. I see no reason to change that opinion today, so as you say, the notion that I would demean myself by making a bid for the throne is utter nonsense. We have standards to maintain in this family.
In any event the monarchical system in Britain is, to the greatest extent, impotent, and so if one wanted real political power, the last place one would find it would be on the throne of England.
I quote as follows:
“Vere-de-Vere stalked into the English vernacular as a playful term meaning the grandest, proudest, most historic, indisputably aristocratic and absolutely creme de la creme of Anglo-Norman antiquity.
In fiction the expression is used for characters of, or assuming, unquestionable ancient lineage — and with good cause.
In the Middle Ages, owing to plagues and battlefield mortality, the average noble dynasty in England lasted not more than three generations. The de Veres, however, managed to maintain a line of twenty earls of Oxford over 561 years.
Lord Thomas Macaulay, Victorian historian supreme calls this family:
'The longest and most illustrious line of nobles that England has seen……….the noblest House in Europe.'”
— Verily Anderson, The Veres of Castle Hedingham.
“The noblest subject in England, and indeed, as Englishmen loved to say, the noblest subject in Europe, was Aubrey de Vere who derived his title through an uninterrupted male descent, from a time when the families of Howard and Seymour were still obscure, when the Nevills and Percys enjoyed only a provincial celebrity, and when even the great name of Plantagenet had not yet been heard in England.
One chief of the house of de Vere had held high command at Hastings; another had marched, with Godfrey and Tancred, over heaps of slaughtered Moslems, to the sepulchre of Christ. The first Earl of Oxford had been minister of Henry Beaucler. The third earl had been conspicuous among the lords who extorted the great Charter from John. The seventh earl had fought bravely at Cressy and Poictiers. The thirteenth earl had, through many vicissitudes of fortune, been the chief of the party of the Red Rose, and had led the van on the decisive day of Bosworth. The seventeenth earl had shone at the court of Elizabeth I, and had won for himself an honourable place among the early masters of English poetry…”
— Baron Thomas Babbington Macaulay, Lord Macaulay of Rothley Temple (1857).
We have no need for thrones or crowns to remind us of who we are.
TT: Are you a monarchist?
NDV: By definition Stalin was a “monarch,” as were all the presidents of the United States. By such a definition I cannot be said to be a monarchist per se. I am only a royalist with the greatest of qualifications because not all who contemporarily claim to be royal or those who have occupied the positions of royalty in history have actually been of royal blood.
TT: How do you feel about the current British monarchy?
NDV: I have no feelings about them one way or another. They have a tendency to frighten the hell out of British wildlife during the hunting season but in other respects they seem harmless enough, so I see no real reason not to leave them where they are. What would you replace them with anyway? President Blair? What a scary thought.
TT: There are a lot of wild theories being bandied about on the internet regarding the agenda of the Dragon Court. New World Order: The Movie regards the Dragon Court as part of an Illuminati conspiracy involving Satanism and Nazism. Heeding Bible Prophecy seems to proclaim nothing less than that the scion of the Devil — the Anti-Christ himself — will emerge from the ranks of the Dragon Court. David Icke and Arizona Wilder claim that your former co-author (and former Dragon Court member), Laurence Gardner, shape-shifted into a reptile and sacrificed babies in an underground military base at Montauk, New York. How close are these claims to the truth? What sinister activities are you hiding, Mr. de Vere?
NDV: People think that the Anti-Christ will emerge from the ranks of the Dragon Court? How intuitive of them.
My views on Nazism are well known. Nazism was a peasant movement populated by the worst in German peasant scum. Its “Aryan” philosophy and aspirations were a complete joke, and its blind devotion to nationalistic jingoism was the height of psychological blindness and wishful thinking. You can't make genetic Aryans — a race of kings — out of a nation of genetic turnip-peasants.
As for Satanism, if we mean adherence to Satan as some externalised deity separate from the Dragon blood and the object of religious devotion, such is an illogical nonsense. Originally the Satans in Biblical terms were nothing more than Circuit Prosecutors within the Jewish Theocratic system. Who in their right mind would worship lawyers? I wish people would study the facts. It would save so much time and energy.
Дэвид Icke , dear, oh dear, oh dear. David once announced on his website that Laurence Gardner and his cronies performed blood-drinking rituals at his “Columba House.” Before uttering this ridiculous libel David should have contacted the Post Office and checked as to where “Columba House” was actually situated. If he had have done the Post Office would quite happily have told him that “Columba House” was in fact a six inch by twelve inch Post Office Box at the local Post Office Branch in Tiverton, Devon. Exactly how many shape-shifting reptilian vampires and their victims can you get into a standard British Post Office Box?
Having all shape-shifted into reptilian vampires, David Icke would then have us believe that they all shrunk to the size of Minnie Mouse and got a postal worker to put them in the box. If the reader thinks this is possible or even probable, and I am sure that some who stay glued to the Internet all day will, then it is also entirely possible that the reader will believe that Laurence Gardner sacrificed babies at Montauk.
David Icke is concocting all this out of his cynical, fiscally motivated imagination and flogging it to a willing audience who, frighteningly enough, actually swallow it whole.
What sinister activities am I hiding? The internal activities of the Court are confidential.
TT: What are your personal beliefs regarding God, spirituality, and religion?
NDV: “Beliefs” regarding God and spirituality create religions, and religions create division and fear, within the individual and consequently within society as a whole. Religion is a crutch for the power hungry, the lazy, the weak minded and the unregenerate. Religions happen when people don't get the point of the message and blindly worship the message and the messenger, instead of grasping the gnosis inherent within the words that the message conveys.
TT: Who, in your opinion, was the Judeo-Christian god Jehovah? Do you believe that there is any historical basis behind the symbolic notion of Jehovah's conflict with Satan?
NDV: The Jews got the main tenets of their religion from the Babylonians during the exile. Therefore one can say that although the later Jehovah is a composite, his main attributes can be traced back to the god Enlil, and it was Enlil who started a war with his step-brother Enki concerning their individual number-ranking and seniority of position within the Anunnaki dynasty. So in general terms we can say that the conflict between Jehovah and Satan originated in a petty family squabble.
TT: What is your opinion of Christ and his ministry?
NDV: A pretty good one.
TT: What is your opinion of the Wiccan and New Age movements?
NDV: Again my views of the Wiccan and New Age movements are also well known. Wicca, the so-called “Old Religion” is no more than sixty years old and the New Age movement is nothing more than a baseless, cynical marketing ploy geared towards extracting money from the gullible.
TT: How do you feel about the sudden surge of interest in the “Grail bloodline” following the publication of The Da Vinci Code ? Do you think that the popularization of the idea is dangerous?
NDV: Some people, the minority, will maintain their interest and study the subject further, whilst the bulk of readers will treat the book as a novel experience and pass on to other subjects, once their curiosity has been satisfied. This happens with every new publication. The only inherent danger would be to the subject itself, once the money-vampires of the New Age get hold of it and try opening weekend workshops in “How to become a member of the Grail Bloodline.” It would then get promoted and marketed as a “lifestyle choice” open to all. Once such familiarity has bred the inevitable public contempt, the subject may well be rendered valueless to the new enquirer.
In this vein I note with derision that a group of uneducated homosexual activists in Denver, Colorado called the “Radical Faeries” , a “fast-growing circle of energetic earth-centered Gay men who meet for community,” have opened up courses in “Faerie Arts and Craft-A-Rama,” complete with coffee mornings. Thank you for passing their information sheet on to me. I read half of it and promptly threw it in the trash can. Truly these days everything is for sale and as a commodity, the sacred becomes profane.
TT: What is the one most important thing you want people to take away after reading The Dragon Legacy ?
Firstly, one of the central themes of the book is transcendent consciousness. I would like to feel that the reader may derive some interest in this concept from reading The Dragon Legacy and will pursue the subject further.
Secondly, the Dragon families have been with us for millennia and, in the course of time, their innate and rightful destiny will cause them to rise again.
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By Tracy R. Twyman
Originally written for
Paranoia Magazine, Copyright 2004
(Does not necessarily represent author’s current viewpoint.)
Just as the work of
Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh and Henry Lincoln![]()
introduced the study of the “Grail bloodline” to Anglo-America in the 1980s, so has the work of two individuals redefined the scope of this study in more recent years. But while the better-known Laurence Gardner has received fame, fortune, accolades, and numerous book contracts as a reward for his work, a lesser-known figure has lurked quietly ion the shadows up until the present. As the Sovereign Grand Master of the Imperial and Royal Dragon Court and Order, Prince Nicholas de Vere von Drakenberg provided the inspiration, the research, and a hefty portion of the writing for Gardner’s Genesis of the Grail Kings![]()
and Realm of the Ring Lords![]()
. Yet amazingly, de Vere is not listed as co-author on many editions of
Genesis![]()
, and receives no credit at all in
Ring Lords![]()
. Both of these books, credited to Laurence Gardner, are based almost entirely upon the text
From Transylvania to Tunbridge Wells, by Nicholas de Vere, recently published by The Book Tree under the title
The Dragon Legacy: The Secret History of an Ancient Bloodline![]()
.
Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh and Henry Lincoln
introduced the study of the “Grail bloodline” to Anglo-America in the 1980s, so has the work of two individuals redefined the scope of this study in more recent years. But while the better-known Laurence Gardner has received fame, fortune, accolades, and numerous book contracts as a reward for his work, a lesser-known figure has lurked quietly ion the shadows up until the present. As the Sovereign Grand Master of the Imperial and Royal Dragon Court and Order, Prince Nicholas de Vere von Drakenberg provided the inspiration, the research, and a hefty portion of the writing for Gardner’s Genesis of the Grail Kings
and Realm of the Ring Lords
Genesis
Ring Lords
From Transylvania to Tunbridge Wells, by Nicholas de Vere, recently published by The Book Tree under the title
The Dragon Legacy: The Secret History of an Ancient Bloodline
But there is much in the original de Vere text that is not to be found in the Gardner version, and there is an authenticity to de Vere’s work, derived from the fact that he is the true inheritor and guardian of this tradition — the Dragon tradition, also known as the Grail tradition. De Vere has spent two decades delving into history, mythology, science, religion, and his own family archives to compile what is perhaps the most extensive and insightful text upon this subject ever published. What de Vere has come up with is enough to comprise not just another pop culture craze, but an entirely new theology, with a new philosophy and politics as well. But de Vere is clearly not out to get rich or be popular, as he has already forgone numerous opportunities to obtain both. Writing about an elite genetic strain of humanity that descends from a super-human race, and which possesses abilities inaccessible to those outside of that strain, is not exactly a ticket to universal adulation. To the contrary, de Vere’s assertions regarding the elite status of the Dragon bloodline have branded him completely anathema to the Wiccan and New Age communities who would otherwise be among those most open to his message. Which begs the question: why has Nicholas de Vere spent the last twenty years of his life on this monumental task, and why does he continue to do so?
I have known Nicholas de five years, and despite what some naysayers have claimed, I have found him to be amazingly humble, selfless, anti-materialistic, and at times brutally honest. He is personable, charming, sincere, and not the least bit conceited, despite knowing that his writing has redefined an entire field of research, that he is the head of an elite occult order with origins stretching back to the Knights Templar, and that he holds a potential claim to several important royal titles. This, some have supposed, is the real motivation behind his work. Some believe that de Vere wants to be the King of England or France, an assertion that he flatly denies. Others see in de Vere a candidate for nothing less than the anti-Christ himself, and see in the Dragon Court an international Satanic conspiracy somewhere on a level between the Ordo Templi Orientis and the Bilderberg Group. But while it is true that, when the Great Dragon of Revelation
does emerge to take hold of the world, he will undoubtedly be of the Dragon blood, and may even be a member of the Court, Prince Nicholas de Vere is certainly not he. As I am sure he would humbly admit himself, de Vere’s mission is simply to prepare the way for He who is yet to come. Listen, then, dear readers, to the voice crying out in the wilderness.
TT:
What is your educational background? What careers have you pursued in the past?
NDV:
I was educated to the British equivalent of ‘High School Graduate’ with qualifications in English Law, English Language, Art, Sociology and Business Economics. I have a further Royal Society of Arts qualification in English. I spent two periods at Brighton University and Coleg Ceredigion where I studied English and Printing, and then later Law, Sociology and Politics.
My main careers have been in:
- the Military, where I served most of my time in the Northern Ireland conflict and was decorated with the Campaign Service Medal.
- in Private Security. I was managing director of my own company and provided security for various nationally and internationally known companies such as Virgin.
TT:
What is the history of your career in professional non-fiction writing?
NDV:
I started writing in earnest in 1985 and was eventually persuaded to publish the thrust of my work on the Internet in 1999.
NDV:
About six years ago. The Dragon Legacy
was known on the net as From Transylvania to Tunbridge Wells
and this was a summary of years of research and reflection. Some of it appeared in Laurence Gardner’s Genesis of the Grail Kings
and then after I published it on the web, Lawrence based his third book Realm of the Ring Lords
largely on what I had already published.
TT:
What were your main sources of information when compiling the book?
NDV:
On the so-called Dragon “path” one is imbued hereditarily with Dragon capabilities in varying measures. As one progresses these capabilities wax and wane according to necessity. One of the main capacities is the Derkesthai Process, in which information is “channeled” through the conduit of the Dragon archetype; specifically the racial consciousness of those of the Dragon blood. Through this process one may pick up naturally, all sorts of information relating to varied aspects of the Dragon Tradition in its many and various branches and manifestations. However, this is of no use intellectually and rationally without informed academic confirmation and corroboration.
To this end another Dragon capacity is to be able to obtain after the fact those confirmations required. I anticipated works before I read them, either through meditation or through experience on the Dragon Path. In a not too dissimilar manner Kerkule discovered the “Bezine Ring.”
I would say that the serious academic backbone of The Dragon Legacy
in terms of corroboration and confirmation, lies in the work of Dr. David Barker; George Woodcock; Lysander Spooner; Professor Miranda Green; Pierre Proudhon; Professors Pierpaoli and Regelson; David Anderson; The Oxford English Dictionary and an old associate Mr. C. Murray Hall M.A. (Lecturer in Barbarian Cultures: Sussex University).
TT:
How did you begin research into your family history? At what point in your life did you become aware of “the Dragon legacy” in your family? Is it something you grew up with?
NDV:
From the age of seven onwards my father told me about our ancestry, an ancestry steeped in royal blood and most significantly of all in what is termed Royal Witchcraft, which is a major, ancient, draconian, druidic facet continuing within the later history of the Dragon tradition and within the Vere family.
My father educated me about our particular origins in the royal and noble Blackwood family of Lanark, Scotland. This dynasty sired the most significant practitioner of the Dragon tradition in his time: Major Thomas Weir of Vere of Edinburgh, my 11th great grandfather.
As a witch lord and the prince consort to the elven queen of the Lallan, Thomas performed the ancient Gaelic rites of the sacred kingship of Epona, and consequently founded this rite of kingship within my lineage. So I received the tradition at an early age from my father and he received it from his father, and so on.
TT:
Your formal title is “Prince Nicholas de Vere.” What does this title imply?
NDV:
To answer your question I have pasted-in an excerpt from the ‘Duchy of Angiers’ genealogical table charting the ancient, royal descent of the Dragon House of Vere which, as you know, will shortly be published with a full compliment of supporting historical and contemporary academic sources.
I quote:
” The Royal House of Vere — The Senior Angevin House of the original ‘Princes and Counts of Anjou’ — are latterly of Breton and Flemish extraction and the former senior, Scottish Branch; Hope-Vere of Blackwood, traditionally observed the Flemish law of Noblesse Uterine, and matrilinear and family inheritance in accordance with noble Scottish family law, which contemporarily and historically supports blood descent.
The titles of Princeps Draconis and Prince de Vere, currently held by Nicholas de Vere, are acknowledged as foreign titles in confidential files held by the British Government’s Department of Internal Affairs: ‘The Home Office’ and are registered with them as ‘Official Observations’. The right of fons honorum held by Nicholas de Vere is also acknowledged by Her Majesty’s government. These titles are recognised by the most senior branches of the House of Vere.
Nicholas de Vere, though accepting the existence of both with some considerable qualification, does not claim to be either a member of the contemporary British royal household or of its peerage in any sense, and does not claim any status or rank suggestive of such or appertaining thereunto. The Vere princedoms are not modern, socially derived titles; either assumed or bestowed, for or by, political expediency.
The princedoms of Vere are ancient cultural manifestations of genetic qualities carried in the historical Elven Blood Royal. Established in Angiers, France, in 740 a.d. as an Imperial and Royal House arising from far older sacral-regal, Pictish, Scythian Vere origins rooted in antiquity, the House of Vere is academically recorded in a single name and in an unbroken line for over one thousand three hundred years, and consequently is one of the oldest surviving royal dynasties in Europe .”
So I trace my lineage back in an unbroken bloodline to the imperial prince Milo de Vere Count of Anjou in 740 A.D., son of Princess Milouziana of the Scythians. She was recorded throughout France as being the Elven, Dragon Princess of the Scottish Picts, and her Grandson Milo II derived his Merovingian descent through his father’s marital alliance with the imperial house of Charlene.
Later in history we picked up numerous other lines of Merovingian descent and the attitude in the house of Vere today, both here and in Ireland, reflects that of the Merovingians themselves where inheritance and blood descent is concerned.
Concerning my maternal lineage: my mother is descended from the ancient Collison Jarls of Norfolk, and is the third cousin of the head of the House of Vere. We are a very tightly knit family. The head of the House himself is of Royal Collison descent and this matrilinear Collison extraction also stems from the ancient House of Vere and Princess Milouziana of the Scythians. We are Veres on all sides of the family.
The overall head of the House of Vere today is the Prince Mhaior. By Papal Investiture and by inheritance from the House of the royal O’Brien descendants of King Brian Boru of Tara, the Prince Mhaior is himself an Archduke — not an insignificant Irish earl, as some totally ill-informed malcontent once triumphantly proclaimed in a ridiculous, failed attempt at an expose of me.
The Head of the House, formally addresses me as “the Dragon Prince” of the House of Vere.
NDV:
In brief the recorded Dragon lineage starts with the Annunaki and descends through the proto-Scythians, the Sumerians in one branch and the early Egyptians in another; the Phoenicians, the Mittani, back to the Scythians again through marital alliance, along to the “Tuatha de Danaan” and the Fir Bolg; down through their Arch-Druidic, Priest-Princely families to the Royal Picts of Scotland and the high kings of the Horse Lords of Dal Riada; through to the Elven dynasty of Pendragon and Avallon del Acqs, and down to a few pure bred families today.
TT:
Were the Dragons originally a separate species from what we would call “human”?
Were the Dragons originally a separate species from what we would call “human”?
NDV:
Dragon tradition related to all the current genetic and historical evidence says yes they were. Both relatively recent and ancient accounts of Dragons or Elves going back to the Annunaki speak of them as having clearly distinct physical attributes, and these attributes are inherited from a species that scientists now assert preceded the human genetic bottleneck by about thirty thousand years. These attributes are not human in the accepted sense. Whether this ancient race was hybridised with another before history is anybody’s guess but their later hybridisation to produce the Elven God-Kings and Ring Lords: (the King Tribe), is clearly recorded in the Cylinder Rolls.
Dragon tradition related to all the current genetic and historical evidence says yes they were. Both relatively recent and ancient accounts of Dragons or Elves going back to the Annunaki speak of them as having clearly distinct physical attributes, and these attributes are inherited from a species that scientists now assert preceded the human genetic bottleneck by about thirty thousand years. These attributes are not human in the accepted sense. Whether this ancient race was hybridised with another before history is anybody’s guess but their later hybridisation to produce the Elven God-Kings and Ring Lords: (the King Tribe), is clearly recorded in the Cylinder Rolls.
TT:
Are these Dragons the same as the “Nephilim” of the Bible or the “Watchers” of The Book of Enoch
NDV:
The Nephilim and the Watchers are of the Dragon race, yes.
TT:
Were the gods of ancient cultures (Greece, India, Sumeria, etc.) Dragons?
NDV:
These pantheons are derived from one another so again the answer in simplistic terms is yes.
TT:
What kind of civilization did the Dragons reign over? Would you say that it was the same as the Atlantean or antediluvian civilization?
NDV:
The Platonic Atlantis theory is preceded by a much older tradition relating to the “Ogdoad.” The Ogdoad, sacred to Jesus himself, were the eight great Gods who raked the Sacred Mountain — “Atlantis” — after the original Flood. This Flood occurred in the Black Sea and the Sacred Mountain, so inundated, was believed to be the Pontus Euxine. Apparently the Ogdoad failed in their attempt to bring fertility back to the Holy Place and abandoned it for a life wandering the planet. This is probably why the legend of the Flood spread and can be found in most cultures.
The Ogdoad turn up in Chinese myth, in early Egyptian religious texts, and even in much later Viking legend, where the gods of the Aesir were said to have abandoned the Sacred Mountain after the Flood. From the Ogdoad, who were the first Dragon god-kings of ancient proto-Scythia, we obtain the gods of the Anunnaki, and those later pantheons that derived from them. It is not to be doubted that after the Flood the children of the Anunnaki had established incredible civilisations in their time, so I suppose you could say that the cultures of the Sumerians (whose language, termed “proto-Sumerian,” originated in Transylvania), the Egyptians and even the early settlers in northern Europe stemmed from and reflect an antediluvian prototype, a much older pre-Flood “Golden Age” presided over by the ancient Dragon god-kings and goddess-queens. The mistake would be to put the Atlantean period too far back in time and to locate Atlantis where Plato did. Scientists have proved the Biblical Flood to be in the Black Sea and this region is where most of the Titanic and Olympian sagas, associated with the Dawn of the Gods, unfold.
TT:
Is Dragon blood the true source of divine right kingship, in your opinion? Are the Dragons the rightful rulers of the world’s governments?
NDV:
Anciently Dragon blood, the blood of the gods is the true source of divine right kingship. To say that Dragons are the rightful rulers of the world’s governments today might raise some contention. Perhaps it would be more realistic to suggest that they may well be the rightful rulers of the world’s governments in the future.
TT:
There is a great deal written in your book about Cain. What is his role in the history of the Dragon bloodline?
NDV:
Cain was the scion of the gods, not of Adam. He was bred to be the progenitor of the race of god-kings over man. In terms of the descent of the later Dragons, he is the father of the race.
TT:
What about Isis/Venus? What is her role?
NDV:
The pantheons have overlapped but essentially Isis, in her Egyptian form, belongs to their agricultural-astronomical metaphor, though in her archaic form she originates from the Anunnaki dynasty. The more recent manifestation of Venus is a process belonging essentially to the later Grail ethos. Briefly put, Venus is the Falling Star — Lucifer — and in short, that star in its fall from Heaven to Earth symbolizes, microcosmically, the descent of sacred essences from the brain of the Dragon priestess to her womb, which organ is the physical, biological reality behind the symbol of the Holy Grail, the cauldron of plenty and so forth.
To elucidate, Kabbalistically and Hermetically, we have the image of the divine female — Sophia — though she has many other names, on both the cosmic and human level. The Cosmos was thought to replicate the perfect human form on the universal scale.
Macrocosmically — Above — the heavens or stars are represented by Kether, the head of the figure. From Kether the Cubic Stone in the form of Lucifer, the divine inspiration, falls to Malkuth the Earth, the birth cannal of the Cosmic being.
Microcosmically — Below — Sophia is embodied in the Dragon female and her head rests in Kether, her womb lies in Yesod and her birth canal lies in Malkuth. Microcosmically the process of the descent of divine inspiration from the heavens to the Earth is repeated therefore in the descent of divine, inspiring essences from Kether to Malkuth in the female form.
The male Kabbalistic counterpart on both the cosmic and human level was Adam Kadmon, the perfect combination of the mortal and the divine, through whom holy wisdom was imparted and within whom Lucifer — the serpent or lightning bolt of that divine inspiration — descended from Kether, which was the divine spirit residing within the head, to Tiphareth the mortal soul of man resting within the heart and thence, through holy prophecy, to the inhabitants of the world sphere.
In Kabbalistic tracts the Cosmic or universal Christ was Tiphareth, which was the male counterpart of the Cubic Stone. In mystical Christian terms Jesus Christ, as the Tiphareth, was both the manifestation and receptacle of transcendent Luciferian inspiration.
Indeed, in the biblical Revelation of St. John, Jesus is called “The bright son of the morning” which is Lucifer or Venus, the Falling Star. He is also referred to biblically as the second Adam, the son of God, and reflecting this Christ was viewed in the Kabbala as Adam Kadmon, the divine human being. As Lucifer, in more recent orthodox Christian terms of reference, by a curious twist of logic he consequently embodies both Christ and Anti-Christ, generation and destruction, Ormuzd and Ahriman, light and darkness. It is not to be marvelled at therefore, that the Anti-Christ of the latter days will arise from the very bloodline of Christ himself.
In summary, in some Gnostic dualist traditions Jesus was a bipartite being identified as the male counterpart of the Cubic Stone and the vessel of God’s wisdom on Earth. Because of this, from antiquity up to the present day, his myth has become conjoined with that of the Holy Grail. However both his divine symbolic origins and sacred attributes, and his bloodline — which embodied those sacred attributes — are far older and stem all the way back to the Anunnaki, to both Enlil and Enki, thus to “God” and the “Devil.”
For this reason, the witches of medieval Europe honoured him as the “antecessor” (“the ancestor”) and as “Christ son Dei,” the dual god of light and dark, good and evil, the scion of both God and Satan. In a classical reversal of the biblical story and as a continuation of the earlier Gnostic theme they considered Jehovah the ultimate god of evil, the demiurge. St. Columba called Jesus “Mo Drui, Mac Dei” — “My Druid, Son of God.” In Gaelic, “druid” means “witch,” and “witchcraft” is the lineal descendant of Druidism. This view of Christ is supported in the ancient Christian “Letter to Ceretius.”
TT:
When you refer metaphorically to “the Dragon,” what exactly are you referring to?
“The Dragon” is a term I use generally to mean the dragon archetype resting within the Dragon blood and passed on through the genes. It is the conduit through which flow the memories of the wisdom and experience of the Dragons who have gone before. The word “dragon” is derived from the Greek “edrakon,” which is an aorist of the word “derkesthai,” which means “to see clearly”. “The Dragon” therefore is the inherited Dragon archetype and that archetype is the conduit of clear sight through which racial knowledge flows. Clear sight also and principally refers to transcendent consciousness.
TT:
What percentage of the world’s populace would you say possesses this Dragon blood? Is it predominately found in certain types of people? How can you tell a Dragon from other types of people?
NDV:
Roughly ten percent of Europeans have Dragon blood, and stem from families whose physical attributes clearly point to a genetic inheritance over 100,000 years old. This figure is calculated from research deriving from studies by Oxford University and matched to historical accounts.
TT:
How did the Dragon race begin, and how did they become a separate race from the rest of humanity?
NDV:
They didn’t originate from outer space, that’s for sure. A principal element of the Dragon genome originated in the vast forests of central Europe, and cut off from other species, they developed as a distinct race. By the time of the Anunnaki they had been hybridised to form the ancestors of the later Elves or Dragon kings and queens.
TT:
When we first met you told me about a research project that some university was doing to try and identify “Dragon genes” in people. What exactly is this project, and is it still going on today?
NDV:
To answer this question I will again paste an excerpt of “The Duchy of Angiers” table here and develop the idea afterwards.
I quote:
” The relationship between the Prince Mhaior who, by Normanised descent, is the Head of the Irish House of Vere and Nicholas de Vere; who — by Gaelic blood descent — is Chief of the Tyrone Kildress Branch is that of 4th and 14th cousins. Both share various identical genes. Found in only 3% and 6% of the clinical samples tested in Britain, Nicholas de Vere and the Head of the House in Eire share two sets of rare genes each. The Prince Mhaior is of Royal Collison extraction and Nicholas de Vere has an extra set of these genes from the matrilineal descent which also supports the Royal Collison descent from Norfolk in his own lineage and echoes the selective and exclusive royal and noble marital alliances which have continued throughout the history of the House of Vere.
The House of Weir and Vere originally commissioned genetic tests to be undertaken to confirm, amongst other things, the precise degree of relationship between their respective lines, and in order to clarify anomalies in genealogy that inevitably creep into the records as the mists of time occlude the past. This was achieved successfully, and some records were amended to reflect genetic findings both in Nicholas’ lineage and that of another of his Vere cousins in Ireland, confirming that Nicholas’ descent is one of the senior bloodlines of the House of Vere.
However, the genetic makeup of the House of Vere manifesting generation after generation proved to be so unusual that, beyond the remit of the original commission by the family, the Department of Haemogenetics at London University took the Veres on as a special study case. At this particular stage of the research a Conference Presentation Document has been submitted prior to the delivery of a Medical Paper at a forthcoming Genetics Symposium in the United States, by an eminent professor in the department who is an internationally recognised pioneer in genetics. Further racial and mitochondrial studies of the Vere family are planned by the department “.
Basically the Veres were found to have more genes than ordinary people. The family research continues.
As for dragon genes, these were identified from research deriving from both London University and The University of Oxford. This aspect of the project has been completed. There are two main types of genes which go to make up a contemporary Dragon.
TT:
Did dragons possess “magical” powers? If so, do their descendants possess them as well?
NDV:
It depends what you mean by “magical.” The greatest magic of all is to be able to naturally still one’s mind to the point where one sees that “all acts are magical acts.” As a natural course of events stemming from transcendent perception, certain facilities are within the grasp of Dragons. These abilities, though they vary, are hereditary.
TT:
Your former co-author Laurence Gardner
writes a lot about “starfire” and the power of pineal secretions, which are portrayed as being analogous to the Elixir of Life or Philosopher’s Stone, bestowing increased brain capacity, magical ability, and prolonged life upon he who consumes it. These are elements that he clearly picked up from your research. In your writing, you claim that people of “Dragon blood” are the only ones bio-chemically equipped to produce these substances in their own bodies at a high enough level to yield results. But Gardner has written much about this so-called “monatomic gold,” and seems to think that this is a synthetic substitute for “starfire” which ordinary people can consume to become Dragons themselves. Do you know anything about this substance? What is your comment on Mr. Gardner’s theories?
NDV:
Firstly the physical, hormonal elements of Starfire are only one side of the story, and in my book I clearly state that the whole process contains several other “psycho-somatic” elements, not least that pertaining to relationship.
As for being able to pop a pill to become a Dragon, this kind of stupid New Age attitude stems from the ridiculous, totally indefensible greed-driven free market assertion that anyone can become anything they choose, and the totally unfounded PC notion that everyone is equal.
This kind of pathetic liberalism, born as a reaction to the socially inculcated victim mentality, should be abhorred by all rational beings, and so my attitude towards the concept of monatomic gold as a great social leveler and equalizer is one of contempt.
However, you don’t make lots of money by telling the bulk of your readership that they are genetically excluded from a process they cannot experience or understand; you sell New Age drivel by telling the ingenuous that they can all assume any role they like, and adopt any trendy “lifestyle” choice that whim and deceitful advertising dictates. As you know, I don’t write to make money, so I don’t care who I offend with the truth. Can I pop a pill to turn me into a black African Masai warrior? No. Is there a powder I can take to change me into a woman? Of course not. I don’t see the need for monatomic gold myself. “Starfire” and the Seraphic relationship worked perfectly well for me, and in any case you are either genetically a Dragon or you are not, and no amount of monatomic gold is going to change your genetic makeup.
TT:
What was the original meaning and purpose of vampirism?
NDV:
Vampire stems from the word “vber” or “uber,” and means “witch.” It originates in Anatolia; the location of the seven yearly Druidic gatherings: the Nemetons. “Witch” in Gaelic is “Druidhe,” or “druid.” In practical terms and suggested by the term “uber” itself, a Scythian druid was an overlord, and so originally a vampire was an overlord, and hence a Dragon.
The purpose of vampirism depends on the type of vampirism practiced. Starfire was the purpose of “royal” or druidic vampirism in the ancient Scythian families, and in Scythian “warrior” vampirism drinking the blood of fallen brothers in battle was intended to take their essence and bravery into the recipient. The blood of vanquished foes was also drunk. In both cases this also had the advantage of topping up one’s adrenaline and testosterone levels in the heat of conflict. The folklore image of the vampire in Europe stems from this historical root. Vampirism was an integral part of Scythian/Dragon life.
TT:
What are the meanings of the terms:
- Fairy
- Pixie
- Elf
- Gnome
- Druid
- Aryan
- Pharisee
Are these all names for essentially the same thing, according to your theory?
NDV:
Yes, these terms are all associated with the same being and stem from the Dragon genome.
Fairy = Fate, and by extension a controller of the fate of man and hence an overlord. In all accounts of fairies they are of royal blood or origin.
Pixie = “Pict Sidhe” or “Sithe,” after the Scythian/Dragon habit of painting or tattooing tribal markings onto the body.
Elf = “White or Shining One,” and refers to the countenance of Dragons as witnessed by contemporary observers.
Gnome = “Wise one”; the word “gnome” derives from the Greek root “gno,” from whence we obtain the word “gnosis,” meaning mystical wisdom. A Gnome was a member therefore of the race of Gnomes or Wise Ones and this term is synonymous with “Aryan”; which means “scion of the wise or noble race.” The word “noble” also stems from the same root word as “gnome”: “Gno.” From thence we see that a gnome was a Dragon.
Druid = Man or woman of the Tree, specifically the Tree of Life — the Scythian Priestess — down whom filters the essences of the brain into the Grail receptacle of the womb.
Aryan = Scion of the wise or noble race, see above; another term for the members of the king tribe where “king,” from the Gothic “Kuningjam,” means “scion of the noble (wise and hence Aryan) race.”
Pharisee = In English folklore a “farisee” or “fairy.” In Hebrew it stems from “Parush,” meaning “one who is set aside,” and hence above others.
TT:
How does the symbolism of Baphomet fit in with your theory?
NDV:
Baphomet can be appreciated on several levels depending on your point of view. To the Church, Baphomet was the Devil and in a sense it is; inasmuch as the goat-headed effigy represents, on one level, Enki; who was later to appear as Shaitan. Enki was known as “the Ram of the Shimmering Waters,” and was the prototype of the Golden Fleece. It appears that Baphomet is a later variation on the same theme. From Enki and his partner Lilith we obtain both Capricorn, the Goat of the Water; and Leviathan. In this sense it can be appreciated as a glyph pointing to the origins of the Dragon dynasty.
To compound this view, on occasion the Baphomet appears with the wings of an angel, and the angel clearly associates the Baphomet — as the badge and progenitor of the Dragon race — with the biblical “sons of God,” the Elohim.
On the alchemical level — in Eliphas Levi’s depiction — we have the negation of the gender polarities and individuation within the Seraphic Relationship, a dynamic where, as Arthur Machin, put it “the two Dragons devour each other and another is born; a Phoenix, a Star of Wonder.” In Levi’s glyph this process is encapsulated in the words “solve” and “coagula.” The upshot of all this is the psychological death of the “Old Man” of the unregenerate ego and the re-emergence in “the New Man” of transcendent perception and “union with Godhead.” Associated with this we have Baphomet or, as some put it, “Father Mithras.”
As Mithras, Baphomet represents the killing of the ‘world bull’ of unregenerate perception, from which sacrifice flows the fertility of the freed consciousness. Additionally, Mithras is the balancing medium between the extreme forces of generation and destruction — and therefore represents cosmic balance in the universe and personal detachment in the individual. Here we touch upon the Hermetic doctrine of “As above, so below.” What happens in the cosmos takes place also in man.
In this vein we can see that the Baphomet symbolizes the Beast 666 — man as God — uniting the Earthly nature of man represented as the goat; and the divine element of man as symbolized by the angel’s wings. In this glyph we see that the divine is to be found in base nature and base nature is to be found in the divine. The Kabbalists put it as “Kether in Malkuth, and Malkuth in Kether.”
In practical terms it means that Heaven is on Earth and Earth is in Heaven and in reality there is no “path” to tread, no “system” of so-called enlightenment to follow, because it is all here now. Kill the “world bull” of fear and greed; still the mind and the timeless, the eternal, the heavenly becomes apparent here and now on Earth, not in some ethereal “life after death” state to come.
Baphomet, as the legendary head of the Templars, has an earlier correlation in the story of the detached head of the Arch-Druid Bran the Blessed which was also a font of wisdom and fertility. The close association of the Head of Wisdom — the Baphomet — with the Grail is demonstrated in the depiction of the Templar Skull and Cross Bones; the original “Joli Rouges” or “Jolly Roger.” Again this has a Hermetic meaning inasmuch as what is above (in the head) is also below (in the womb, or “Grail”). The head as a Grail symbol derives spiritually from the Celtic belief that the divine soul resided within the head. The severed head — the skull — resting on the crossed bones of the thighs near the pudenda denotes that the head and the womb were both the receptacles of the divine, and were therefore synonymous as symbols of the Holy Grail.
TT:
Is the Dragon bloodline a Satanic or Luciferian bloodline?
NDV:
Yes is the honest and simple answer.
TT:
If a person believes that they have the Dragon gene, and they want to start developing the powers inherent in their blood, what course would you suggest they follow?
NDV:
There isn’t one gene, there are two main types which must be found together, and the best course of action, for those who want to be certain of their heritage at the outset, would be to contact a reputable commercial genetic laboratory and find out for sure.
Developing powers for their own sake isn’t magic, it’s greed, and greed and ambition are the destroyers of transcendent Dragon perception. Power flows naturally for those whose vision is clear, and clear perception will determine that those powers are used with detachment. Jesus said “Seek ye first the kingdom of God and all these things will be added unto you.” The fact of the matter is that to Dragons, Dragon magic is simple and straightforward and fundamentally it relies in discovering simplicity and stillness within the self.
If the reader believes they are of the Dragon Blood and they wish to explore the transcendent concept, in lieu of a lengthy explanation for which there isn’t space within the confines of this interview, I would recommend a little book entitled The First and Last Freedom
TT:
What is the history of the Dragon Court of which you are the sovereign head? Did you inherit this title, and if so, who from?
NDV:
The Imperial and Royal Dragon Court appears repeatedly throughout the history of my family. It is the physical, cultural manifestation of the Dragon spirit inherent within the Vere Dragon blood, reaching back long before the time of Christ.
Briefly, to give a few examples, in more recent times it was the Royal Court of the Dragon Princess Milouziana from whom we are descended in numerous lines, and later it was the fairy Court of Alberic de Vere, the legendary Oberon.
Immediately following Alberic it was the Court of his son, Robert de Vere earl of Huntingdon, who was the historical Robin Hood; the elven, sacral priest-king of the witches. Later the Dragon Court was manifest in the “Thirteen Covens of Mid-Lothian,” and in the cabal of Lady Somerville, the witch-mother of Thomas of Edinburgh. Thomas was the grandson of Sir William Vere of Stonebyres and the elvin, Dragon priest-king of the Thirteen Covens.
Sir William was the son of James, 7th Baron Blackwood. Lady Jane Somerville’s heraldic family badge is recorded as the fiery dragon surmounting the pentacle, denoting Dragon blood in the House of the Somerville earls.
Notably in our family the Dragon Court is also derived from the Court of the Pendragon Kings whose lineage we inherit through numerous marital alliances with our close cousins the Dukes of Hamilton, whose estates bordered our own in Lanarkshire. The Hamiltons were the heirs presumptive to the throne of Scotland.
Lateral inheritance from the extinct cadet cousin branch of the Vere earls of Oxford brings to the contemporary Court, via the 11th earl Richard de Vere, the degree of Societas Draconis — latterly misnamed “Sarkany Rend” — a membership bestowed upon him, it is believed academically, during his investiture into the Prince’s Degree of the Order of the Garter, along with the Emperor Sigismund of Luxembourg, at St. George’s Chapel, Windsor Castle.
The heraldry of the family prior to Richard’s investiture into Societas Draconis already included the ancient Dragon motifs on both the paternal and maternal sides of the family, denoting pure Dragon blood in both descents, and reflecting the continuing presence of the Dragon Court in the family since the time of Princess Milouziana of the Scythians.
The contemporary Dragon Court is furthermore a combination of what Aleister Crowley would term several “currents,” of which the major external one to the family proper was bestowed via the Black Country Covenant of the Baphometic Order of the Cubic Stone, who trace their origins back to the Knights Templars. This was given in recognition of my family’s hereditary involvement in Royal Witchcraft and the historical Dragon tradition. Other external currents derive from the Knighthood of the Plantagenet Clan Donnachaid, Dragon cousins to the House of Vere, and laterally from Dr John Dee’s “School of Night,” of which Edward de Vere, the seventeenth earl of Oxford, was a prominent member. Edward also performed the rites of Dragon kingship in the family, specifically the rite of the kingship of the Calle Daouine.
Down the centuries the Royal Dragon Court is carried continuously in the Vere Dragon Blood.
It would be correct to say I inherited the Dragon Court by virtue of being a senior blood descendant of the House of Vere, and I am recognized as a Dragon sovereign by the other senior members of the family. Academic sources and references pertaining to these Dragon descents will be published with the book.
TT:
How can one become a member of the Dragon Court, and once a member, what does one do? What is the current function of the Dragon Court?
NDV:
Today the Court consists of participating family members here and in Ireland. In addition to these, we have emeritus officers whose functions are invaluable to the running of the Court.
One of the current, “outer” functions of the Dragon Court is as the custodian of the Dragon tradition within the Vere family, which includes the continuing study of the history and genealogy of its various branches, and the amendment of records as fresh knowledge comes to light.
Membership of the Dragon Court is given rarely. We are not a joining club, nor do we operate for monetary gain in any sense. As time passes the Dragon Ethos demands that the Dragon Court change and develop according to expediency. In the future we may well expand the membership of the Court to take in new Dragon members or to expand the number of emeritus officers.
TT:
Many people have ascribed to you a radical political agenda, and say that you are trying to use your genealogy as a springboard for a bid for the throne of England, and other such nonsense. What is your response to these claims?
NDV:
I cannot take such assertions seriously. The educated reader will already know that the House of Vere fielded over twenty prominent earls in an unbroken line over 561 years of British history. The House of Vere was credited with being the senior bloodline of England, both by its contemporaries and by later historians, and the Veres acted for centuries as Great Chamberlains to the various royal dynasties that came and went over time. As Great Chamberlains they were the closest advisors to the monarchs and were therefore the major influence or power behind the British throne.
In all this time the family never considered it expedient to stoop to pick up the Crown, as the House of Vere was above such considerations. It is apparent, given the family’s pre-eminently powerful and influential historical position within British society, that the English monarchy was a trivia beneath the dignity and ambition of the House. I see no reason to change that opinion today, so as you say, the notion that I would demean myself by making a bid for the throne is utter nonsense. We have standards to maintain in this family.
In any event the monarchical system in Britain is, to the greatest extent, impotent, and so if one wanted real political power, the last place one would find it would be on the throne of England.
I quote as follows:
“Vere-de-Vere stalked into the English vernacular as a playful term meaning the grandest, proudest, most historic, indisputably aristocratic and absolutely creme de la creme of Anglo-Norman antiquity.
In fiction the expression is used for characters of, or assuming, unquestionable ancient lineage — and with good cause.
In the Middle Ages, owing to plagues and battlefield mortality, the average noble dynasty in England lasted not more than three generations. The de Veres, however, managed to maintain a line of twenty earls of Oxford over 561 years.
Lord Thomas Macaulay, Victorian historian supreme calls this family:
‘The longest and most illustrious line of nobles that England has seen……….the noblest House in Europe.’”
— Verily Anderson, The Veres of Castle Hedingham.
“The noblest subject in England, and indeed, as Englishmen loved to say, the noblest subject in Europe, was Aubrey de Vere who derived his title through an uninterrupted male descent, from a time when the families of Howard and Seymour were still obscure, when the Nevills and Percys enjoyed only a provincial celebrity, and when even the great name of Plantagenet had not yet been heard in England.
One chief of the house of de Vere had held high command at Hastings; another had marched, with Godfrey and Tancred, over heaps of slaughtered Moslems, to the sepulchre of Christ. The first Earl of Oxford had been minister of Henry Beaucler. The third earl had been conspicuous among the lords who extorted the great Charter from John. The seventh earl had fought bravely at Cressy and Poictiers. The thirteenth earl had, through many vicissitudes of fortune, been the chief of the party of the Red Rose, and had led the van on the decisive day of Bosworth. The seventeenth earl had shone at the court of Elizabeth I, and had won for himself an honourable place among the early masters of English poetry…”
— Baron Thomas Babbington Macaulay, Lord Macaulay of Rothley Temple (1857).
We have no need for thrones or crowns to remind us of who we are.
TT:
Are you a monarchist?
NDV:
By definition Stalin was a “monarch,” as were all the presidents of the United States. By such a definition I cannot be said to be a monarchist per se. I am only a royalist with the greatest of qualifications because not all who contemporarily claim to be royal or those who have occupied the positions of royalty in history have actually been of royal blood.
TT:
How do you feel about the current British monarchy?
NDV:
I have no feelings about them one way or another. They have a tendency to frighten the hell out of British wildlife during the hunting season but in other respects they seem harmless enough, so I see no real reason not to leave them where they are. What would you replace them with anyway? President Blair? What a scary thought.
TT:
There are a lot of wild theories being bandied about on the internet regarding the agenda of the Dragon Court. New World Order: The Movie
regards the Dragon Court as part of an Illuminati conspiracy involving Satanism and Nazism. Heeding Bible Prophecy
seems to proclaim nothing less than that the scion of the Devil — the Anti-Christ himself — will emerge from the ranks of the Dragon Court. David Icke and Arizona Wilder
claim that your former co-author (and former Dragon Court member), Laurence Gardner, shape-shifted into a reptile and sacrificed babies in an underground military base at Montauk, New York. How close are these claims to the truth? What sinister activities are you hiding, Mr. de Vere?
NDV:
People think that the Anti-Christ will emerge from the ranks of the Dragon Court? How intuitive of them.
My views on Nazism are well known. Nazism was a peasant movement populated by the worst in German peasant scum. Its “Aryan” philosophy and aspirations were a complete joke, and its blind devotion to nationalistic jingoism was the height of psychological blindness and wishful thinking. You can’t make genetic Aryans — a race of kings — out of a nation of genetic turnip-peasants.
As for Satanism, if we mean adherence to Satan as some externalised deity separate from the Dragon blood and the object of religious devotion, such is an illogical nonsense. Originally the Satans in Biblical terms were nothing more than Circuit Prosecutors within the Jewish Theocratic system. Who in their right mind would worship lawyers? I wish people would study the facts. It would save so much time and energy.
David Icke
Having all shape-shifted into reptilian vampires, David Icke
would then have us believe that they all shrunk to the size of Minnie Mouse and got a postal worker to put them in the box. If the reader thinks this is possible or even probable, and I am sure that some who stay glued to the Internet all day will, then it is also entirely possible that the reader will believe that Laurence Gardner sacrificed babies at Montauk.
David Icke is concocting all this out of his cynical, fiscally motivated imagination and flogging it to a willing audience who, frighteningly enough, actually swallow it whole.
What sinister activities am I hiding? The internal activities of the Court are confidential.
TT:
What are your personal beliefs regarding God, spirituality, and religion?
NDV:
“Beliefs” regarding God and spirituality create religions, and religions create division and fear, within the individual and consequently within society as a whole. Religion is a crutch for the power hungry, the lazy, the weak minded and the unregenerate. Religions happen when people don’t get the point of the message and blindly worship the message and the messenger, instead of grasping the gnosis inherent within the words that the message conveys.
TT:
Who, in your opinion, was the Judeo-Christian god Jehovah? Do you believe that there is any historical basis behind the symbolic notion of Jehovah’s conflict with Satan?
NDV:
The Jews got the main tenets of their religion from the Babylonians during the exile. Therefore one can say that although the later Jehovah is a composite, his main attributes can be traced back to the god Enlil, and it was Enlil who started a war with his step-brother Enki concerning their individual number-ranking and seniority of position within the Anunnaki dynasty. So in general terms we can say that the conflict between Jehovah and Satan originated in a petty family squabble.
TT:
What is your opinion of Christ and his ministry?
NDV:
A pretty good one.
TT:
What is your opinion of the Wiccan and New Age movements?
NDV:
Again my views of the Wiccan and New Age movements are also well known. Wicca, the so-called “Old Religion” is no more than sixty years old and the New Age movement is nothing more than a baseless, cynical marketing ploy geared towards extracting money from the gullible.
TT:
How do you feel about the sudden surge of interest in the “Grail bloodline” following the publication of The Da Vinci Code
NDV:
Some people, the minority, will maintain their interest and study the subject further, whilst the bulk of readers will treat the book as a novel experience and pass on to other subjects, once their curiosity has been satisfied. This happens with every new publication. The only inherent danger would be to the subject itself, once the money-vampires of the New Age get hold of it and try opening weekend workshops in “How to become a member of the Grail Bloodline.” It would then get promoted and marketed as a “lifestyle choice” open to all. Once such familiarity has bred the inevitable public contempt, the subject may well be rendered valueless to the new enquirer.
In this vein I note with derision that a group of uneducated homosexual activists in Denver, Colorado called the “Radical Faeries”, a “fast-growing circle of energetic earth-centered Gay men who meet for community,” have opened up courses in “Faerie Arts and Craft-A-Rama,” complete with coffee mornings. Thank you for passing their information sheet on to me. I read half of it and promptly threw it in the trash can. Truly these days everything is for sale and as a commodity, the sacred becomes profane.
TT:
What is the one most important thing you want people to take away after reading The Dragon Legacy
Firstly, one of the central themes of the book is transcendent consciousness. I would like to feel that the reader may derive some interest in this concept from reading The Dragon Legacy
and will pursue the subject further.
Secondly, the Dragon families have been with us for millennia and, in the course of time, their innate and rightful destiny will cause them to rise again.
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Царство Мое не от мира сего: Интервью с князем Николаем де Вере фон Drakenberg
Трейси Р. Твимэн
Первоначально написанный для Paranoia Magazine, Copyright 2004
(Не обязательно отражает текущую точку обзора автора.)
Так же , как работа Майкла Бейджент, Ричард Ли и Генри Линкольн представил исследование "Грааль родословной" в англо-Америке в 1980-е годы, так что есть работа двух лиц пересматривал рамки данного исследования в более поздние годы. Но в то время как более известный Лоренс Гарднер получил известность, состояние, награды, а также многочисленные книжные контракты в качестве вознаграждения за свою работу, меньшая известная фигура скрывалось тихо ионному тени вплоть до настоящего времени. Как Суверенного Великого Мастера императорского и королевского дракона суда и порядок, князь Николай де Вер фон Drakenberg обеспечил вдохновение, исследование, и изрядную часть письма для Гарднера Бытие Грааля Kings и царству кольца лордов , Тем не менее , удивительно, де Вер не указан как соавтор многих изданиях Бытия , И не получает кредит на всех в кольцо лордов , Обе эти книги, зачисленных на Лоренса Гарднера, основаны почти исключительно на тексте из Трансильвании в Танбридж Уэллс, Николас де Вер, недавно опубликованной в книге Дерево под названием Дракон Legacy: Тайная история Древнего Рода.
Но есть много в оригинальном тексте де Вер, который не найти в версии Гарднера, и есть аутентичность де работы Вере, в вытекает из того факта, что он является истинным наследником и хранителем этой традиции - традиции Дракон , также известный как традиции Грааля. Де Вер провел два десятилетия, углубляясь в историю, мифологии, науки, религии, и его собственные семейные архивы, чтобы собрать то, что, пожалуй, самый обширный и глубокий текст на эту тему когда-либо опубликованных. Что де Вер придумал достаточно, чтобы содержать не только другой поп-культуры мания, но совершенно новое богословие, с новой философией и политикой, а также. Но де Вер явно не из разбогатеть или быть популярным, так как он уже недополученные многочисленные возможности для получения обоих. Описывая элитного генетического штамма человечества, который нисходит из супер-человеческой расы, и который обладает способностями, недоступные для тех, кто за пределами этого штамма, не совсем билет на всеобщее лести. Напротив, утверждения де Вер в отношении элитного статуса линии крови дракона заклеймили его совершенно неприемлема для викканскую и New Age общин, которые иначе были бы в числе наиболее открытыми для своего сообщения. Возникает вопрос: почему Николас де Вер провел последние двадцать лет своей жизни на этой грандиозной задачи, и почему он продолжать делать это?
Я знал Николая де пять лет, и, несмотря на то, что утверждают некоторые скептики, я нашел его на удивление скромным, самоотверженным, анти-материалистическая, а порой честны. Он представительный, обаятельная, искренняя, и нисколько не тщеславны, даже зная, что его письмо пересмотрела всю область исследований, что он является главой элитного оккультного порядка с происхождением уходящие тамплиерами, и что он имеет потенциал претендовать на несколько важных королевских титулов. Это, некоторые из них предполагается, является реальной мотивацией за его работой. Некоторые считают, что де Вер хочет быть королем Англии или Франции, утверждение, что он категорически отрицает. Другие видят в де Вер кандидата на не меньше, чем самого антихриста, и увидеть в Dragon суд международного сатанинского заговора где-то на уровне между Ordo Templi Orientis и Бильдербергский клуб. Но в то время это правда , что, когда Великий Дракон Откровения действительно возникают , чтобы завладеть миром, он, несомненно , будет кровь дракона, и даже может быть членом Суда, князь Николай де Вер, конечно , не он. Я уверен, что он будет смиренно признать себя, миссия де Вер является просто подготовить путь Тот, кто еще впереди. Слушай, тогда, дорогие читатели, голос вопиющего в пустыне.
TT: Каково ваше образование? Какие карьеры вы преследовали в прошлом?
NDV: Я получил образование в британской эквивалент "выпускник средней школы» с квалификацией в английском праве, английский язык, искусства, социологии и экономики бизнеса. У меня есть еще одно Королевское общество искусств квалификацию на английском языке. Я провел два периода при Университете Брайтона и Coleg Кередигиона, где я изучал английский язык и печать, а затем права, социологии и политики.
Мои основные карьеры были в:
Военный, где я служил большую часть своего времени в Северной Ирландии конфликта и был награжден медалью кампании службы.
в частных охранных предприятий. Я был управляющим директором моей собственной компании и обеспечивали безопасность для различных национальных и всемирно известных компаний, таких как Virgin.
TT: Какова история вашей карьеры в профессиональном неигрового письменном виде?
NDV: Я начал писать всерьез в 1985 году и в конце концов убедили опубликовать направленность моей работы в Интернете в 1999 году.
TT: Как давно вы пишете дракон Наследие ?
NDV:. Около шести лет назад Дракон Наследие был известен в сети , как От Трансильвании до Танбридж и это было резюме многолетних исследований и размышлений. Некоторые из них появились в Лоренса Гарднера Бытие Грааля Kings а затем после того, как я опубликовал его в Интернете, Лоуренс на основе его третья книга царству Ring Лордов в значительной степени от того, что я уже опубликовал.
TT: Каковы были ваши основные источники информации при составлении книги?
NDV: На так называемый Дракон "путь" один проникнут наследственно с возможностями Дракон в той или иной меры. Как и прогрессирует эти возможности воска и уменьшаться в соответствии с необходимостью. Одной из основных возможностей является процесс Derkesthai, в котором информация "направляется" через трубопровод архетипа дракона; в частности, расовое сознание тех, кто крови дракона. С помощью этого процесса можно подобрать, естественно, все виды информации, касающейся различных аспектов Традиции Дракона в его многочисленных и различных отраслях и проявлениях. Тем не менее, это не имеет смысла интеллектуально и рационально без обоснованного академического подтверждения и подтверждения.
С этой целью другой емкости дракона, чтобы иметь возможность получить после того, как тот факт, обязывал эти Подтверждения. Я ожидал работы, прежде чем я прочитал их, либо с помощью медитации или через опыт на Пути Дракона. В не слишком отличающемся образом Kerkule открыл «Bezine кольцо».
Я бы сказал , что серьезная академическая основа Дракона Наследие с точки зрения подтверждения и подтверждения, заключается в работе д-ра Дэвида Баркера; Джордж Вудкок; Лисандр Спунер; Профессор Миранда Грин; Пьер Прудон; Профессора Pierpaoli и Регельсон; Дэвид Андерсон; Оксфордский словарь английского языка и старый соратник г-н К. Мюррей Холл МА (преподаватель варварских культур: Sussex University).
TT: Как вы начали исследование в истории вашей семьи? В какой момент в вашей жизни вы узнали о "наследии" Дракон в вашей семье? Это то, что вы росли?
NDV: В возрасте семи лет, начиная мой отец рассказывал мне о нашей родословной, родословной погруженного в королевской крови и наиболее значительной из всех в том , что называется Royal колдовства, который является одним из основных, древний, драконовские, друидов фасет продолжается в течение более поздней истории традиции Dragon и в семье Вере.
Мой отец образованный меня о наших конкретных истоков в царской и благородной Blackwood семье Ланарка, Шотландия. Эта династия хряков самым значительным практиком традиции Дракона в свое время: майор Томас Вейр из Вере Эдинбурга, мой 11-прадеда.
Как ведьма господин и принц-консорт к эльфийской королевы диалект южной части Шотландии, Томас исполнял древние гэльские обряды священного сана Эпоны, и, следовательно, основал этот обряд сана в моей родословной. Так что я получил традиции в раннем возрасте от моего отца, и он получил его от своего отца, и так далее.
TT: Ваше формальное название ". Князь Николай де Вер" Что это название подразумевает?
NDV: Для того, чтобы ответить на ваш вопрос я вставленное в отрывке из "Герцогство Angiers" генеалогического таблицы графиков древний, королевский спуск Дракона Дома Вере , которая, как вы знаете, в скором времени будет опубликован с полным набором поддержки исторические и современные научные источники.
Я цитирую:
"Королевский Дом Вер - старший Анжуйский Дом оригинальной« князей и графов Анжу »- это последнее из Бретоном и фламандской добычи и бывшего старшего, шотландского отделения; Надежда-Вере из Blackwood, традиционно наблюдается фламандский закон Noblesse утробного и matrilinear и семейное наследство в соответствии с знатного шотландского семейного права, который исторически и современно поддерживает спуск крови.
Названия PRINCEPS Драконис и принца де Вер, в настоящее время удерживаются Николас де Вер, признаются в качестве иностранных названий в секретных файлах, проводимых Департаментом правительства Великобритании внутренних дел: «Домашний офис» и зарегистрированы с ними, как "Официальные наблюдения" , Право Fons honorum провел Николас де Вер также признается правительством Ее Величества. Эти названия признаны наиболее старших ветвей Дома Вере.
Николас де Вер, хотя принимая существование как с какой-то значительной квалификации, не претендует быть либо членом современной британской королевской семьи или его пэра в каком-то смысле, и не претендует на статус или ранг наводит на мысль о таких или приходящихся сем. Княжеств Вере не современные, социальное происхождение названия; либо предполагаемая или дарила, ибо либо, политической целесообразности.
Княжеств Вере древние культурные проявления генетических качеств, проведенных в исторической Эльфов Крови Royal. Основанная в Angiers, Франция, в 740 объявлении в качестве императорского и королевского дома, вытекающие из гораздо старше сакрально-королевски, пиктов, Скифа Vere истоки коренятся в древности, Дом Вере академически записывается в одном имени и в непрерывной линии для более одна тысяча триста лет, и, следовательно, является одним из старейших сохранившихся королевских династий в Европе ".
Поэтому я проследить мой родословную в неразрывной линии крови к имперским князем Мило де Вер графа Анжу в 740 г. н.э., сын княгини Milouziana скифов. Она была записана по всей Франции как эльфийского, Дракон принцессы шотландского пиктов, и ее Внук Майло II получил свое Меровингов происхождение по семейному союзу его отца с императорским домом Шарлин.
Позже в истории мы подобрали множество других линий Меровингов происхождения и отношения в доме Вере сегодня как здесь, так и в Ирландии, отражает то, что самих Меровингов, где касается наследования и кровь происхождения.
Что касается моей материнской линии: мать моя происходит от древнего Коллисон ярлов Норфолк, а третий двоюродный брат главы Дома Вере. Мы очень сплоченная семья. Глава самого дома является королевского Коллисон спуска и это matrilinear извлечение Коллисон также вытекает из древнего Дома Вере и княжне Milouziana скифов. Мы Верес со всех сторон семьи.
Общая глава Палаты Вере сегодня является принц Mhaior. Папскими инвеституру и по наследству из Дома королевских O'Brien потомков короля Брайана Бору Тары, принц Mhaior сам является эрцгерцог - не ничтожное ирландский граф, как некоторые совершенно неосведомленный недовольный однажды торжествующе провозгласил в смешной , неудачной попытки на разоблачение меня.
Глава Дома, формально обращается ко мне, как "Дракон" Принц Дома Вере.
TT: Кто такие "драконов" , которые вы пишете о в своей книге ?
NDV: Вкратце записанная Dragon родословная начинается с Аннунаках и спускается через прото-скифов, шумеров в одной отрасли и ранних египтян в другой; финикийцы, тем Mittani, обратно к скифам снова через брачного союза, а также к "Племена богини Дану" и Фир Болг; вниз через их семьи Арх-друидов, жрецов-княжеских к королевскому пиктов Шотландии и высоких королей лошади лордов Даль Риада; вплоть до династии Эльфов из Пендрагон и Avallon дель Acqs, и вплоть до нескольких чистопородный семьи сегодня.
TT: Были ли драконы первоначально отдельный вид от того, что мы назвали бы «человеческим»?
NDV: Дракон традиции , связанные со всеми текущей генетической и исторических свидетельств говорит да , они были. Оба относительно недавно и древние счета Драконы или Эльфы, возвращаясь к Аннунаками говорить о них как имеющие четко определенные физические атрибуты, и эти атрибуты наследуются от видов, которые ученые утверждают теперь предшествовал человеческий генетический узкое место около тридцати тысяч лет. Эти атрибуты не являются человеческими в общепринятом смысле. Является ли это древняя раса гибридизировали с другим перед историей можно только догадываться, но их позже гибридизация производить эльфийского Богом Короли и Ring господствующих (Король племя), четко фиксируется в цилиндре Rolls.
TT: Являются ли эти драконы такие же , как в "Нефилим" Библии или "Watchers" из Книги Еноха ?
NDV: Нефилимы и Watchers являются гонки Dragon, да.
TT: Могли ли боги древних культур (Греция, Индия, Шумера и т.д.) Драконов?
NDV: Эти пантеонов получены друг от друга так , снова ответ на упрощенно да.
TT: Какой цивилизации сделал Драконы царствовать над? Можете ли вы сказать, что это был такой же, как атлантической или допотопной цивилизации?
". Ogdoad": НДВ Теория Платона Атлантида предшествует гораздо более древней традиции , относящейся к Огдоаде, священным для самого Иисуса, было восемь великих богов , которые кромсали священная гора - "Атлантис" - после первоначального потопа. Это наводнение произошло в Черном море и горы Святого, так затоплены, как полагали, был Понт Euxine. По-видимому, огдоада потерпели неудачу в своей попытке принести плодородие обратно в святом месте, и отказались от него в течение жизни странствующего планеты. Это, вероятно, почему легенда о потопе распространилась и могут быть найдены в большинстве культур.
Огдоаде свою очередь, в китайском мифе, в ранних египетских религиозных текстов, и даже в гораздо более поздний викингов легенда, где, как говорили боги асы, покинули гору Священную после потопа. Из Огдоаде, которые первыми Дракон королей-богов древнего прото-Скифии, мы получаем богов Аннунаки, а те, которые позже пантеонами, полученные из них. Не подлежит сомнению, что после потопа дети ануннаками создали невероятные цивилизации в свое время, так что я полагаю, вы могли бы сказать, что культуры шумеров (чей язык, называемый "прото-шумерской," возникла в Трансильвании) , египтяне и даже ранние поселенцы в северной Европе вытекает из и отражает допотопный прототип, намного старше до Потопа "Золотой век" под председательством древних драконов королей-богов и богинь-цариц. Ошибкой было бы поставить атлантов период слишком далеко назад во времени и найти Атлантиду, где Платон сделал. Ученые доказали, библейский потоп, чтобы быть в Черном море, и этот регион, где большинство Титаника и олимпийца сагах, связанных с рассветом богов, разворачиваться.
TT: Является ли Дракон крови истинный источник божественного права сана, по вашему мнению? Являются ли драконы законные правители правительств мира?
NDV: Издревле Дракон крови, кровь богов есть истинный источник божественного права сана. Сказать, что драконы являются полноправными правителями мира Сегодня правительства могли бы поднять некоторые утверждения. Возможно, было бы более реалистично предположить, что они вполне могут быть законными правителями правительств мира в будущем.
TT: Существует много написано в вашей книге о Каине. Какова его роль в истории родословной дракона?
NDV: Каин был потомком богов, а не Адама. Он был воспитан, чтобы быть прародителем расы королей-богов над человеком. С точки зрения происхождения поздних драконов, он является отцом гонки.
TT: А как насчет Isis / Венеры? Какова ее роль?
NDV: пантеонах наложились , но по существу Isis, в ее египетской форме, относится к своему сельскохозяйственному-астрономическая метафора, хотя в ее архаической форме она берет свое начало из династии Ануннаки. Более поздние проявления Венеры представляет собой процесс, принадлежащий по существу, к более поздней Грааля этоса. Коротко говоря, Венера Падающая звезда - Люцифер - и короче говоря, что звезда в своем падении с небес на землю символизирует, Микрокосмически, спуск священных эссенции из мозга жрицы Дракона в ее лоно, какой орган является физическое, биологическая реальность, стоящая за символом Святого Грааля, котел изобилия и так далее.
Для выяснения, Kabbalistically и герметически, мы имеем образ божественного женского - Софии - хотя у нее есть много других имен, как на космическом и человеческом уровне. Космос думали повторить идеальную человеческую форму на универсальном масштабе.
Macrocosmically - Выше - небо или звезды представлены Кетер, глава фигуры. Из Кетер Кубический камень в виде Люцифера, божественного вдохновения, падает на Землю Малкут, рождение cannal Космического существа.
Микрокосмически - Внизу - София воплощен в женском Dragon и ее голова покоится в Кетер, ее чрево лежит в Йесод и ее родовые пути лежит в Малкут. Микрокосмически процесс спуска божественного вдохновения с небес на Землю повторяется поэтому в спуске божественного, вдохновляя эссенции от Кетер к Малкут в женской форме.
Мужчина каббалистический коллега как на космическом и человеческом уровне был Адам Кадмон, идеальное сочетание смертного и божественного, через которого святая мудрость была придана и внутри которого Люцифер - змея или молнии этого божественного вдохновения - произошли от Кетер, который был божественный дух, проживающих в голове, чтобы Tiphareth смертный душу человека покоится в сердце, а оттуда, через святое пророчество, жителям мировой сферы.
В каббалистической трактов Космический или универсальный Христос был Tiphareth, который был мужской аналог кубического камня. В мистических христианских терминах Иисус Христос, как Тиферет, был одновременно проявлением и вместилище трансцендентного Люциферианского вдохновения.
Действительно, в библейском Откровении Иоанна, Иисус назван "Яркое сын зари" , который является Люцифер или Венера, Falling Star. Он также называется библейски как второй Адам, сын Божий, и отражает этот Христос рассматривался в Каббале как Адам Кадмон, божественного человеческого существа. Как Люцифера, в более поздних ортодоксальных христианских круга ведения, любопытным твист логики он, следовательно, воплощает в себе и Христа и Антихриста, поколение и разрушения, Ормузда и Аримана, света и тьмы. Он не дивились таким образом, что Антихрист в последние дни будут возникать с самого родословной самого Христа.
Таким образом, в некоторых гностических бинарными традиции Иисус был двудольным идентифицируется как мужской аналог кубического камня и сосуд Божьей мудрости на Земле. Из-за этого, от древности до наших дней и по сей день, его миф стал соединился с этим Святого Грааля. Однако и его божественные символические происхождение и священные атрибуты, и его родословная - воплотивших эти священные атрибуты - намного старше и остановить весь путь обратно к ануннаков, как к Энлиля и Энки, таким образом, чтобы "Бог" и "Дьявол".
По этой причине, ведьмы средневековой Европы почитали его как "Предшественник" ( "предок"), и как "сын Христос Dei," двойственного бога света и тьмы, добра и зла, отпрыском Бога и Сатаны. В классическом повороте библейской истории и как продолжение ранее гностической темы они считали Иегова окончательный бог зла, демиург. Санкт-Columba называют Иисуса "Мо Drui, Mac Dei" - ". Мой друид, Сын Божий" В гэльском, "друид" означает "ведьма" и "колдовство" является прямым потомком Druidism. Эта точка зрения Христа поддерживается в древнем христианском "Письмо в Ceretius."
TT: Когда вы смотрите метафорически "Дракона" , что именно вы имеете в виду?
"Дракон" это термин я использую, как правило, означает дракон архетип отдыхает в крови дракона и передается через гены. Это трубопровод, через который текут воспоминания о мудрости и опыта Драконов, кто ушел раньше. Слово "дракон" происходит от "edrakon" греческого, который является аорист слова "derkesthai", что означает "ясно видеть". Поэтому "Дракон" является унаследованная Дракон архетипа и что архетип является проводником ясного зрения, через который течет расовая знания. Очистить зрение также и главным образом относится к трансцендентным сознание.
TT: Какой процент от мирового населения бы вы сказали , обладает этим кровь дракона? Является ли он преимущественно находится в определенных типов людей? Как вы можете сказать дракона от других типов людей?
NDV: Примерно десять процентов европейцев имеют драконьей крови, и проистекают из семей , чьи физические признаки явно указывают на генетическое наследование более 100 000 лет. Этот показатель рассчитывается на основе исследований, вытекающих из исследований Оксфордского университета и соответствуют историческим счетам.
TT: Как начать гонки дракона, и как они стали отдельной расы от остального человечества?
NDV: Они не происходят из космического пространства, это точно. Основной элемент генома дракона возник в обширных лесах Центральной Европы, и отрезаны от других видов, они разработали в качестве отдельной расы. К тому времени ануннаков они были гибридизуют с образованием предков поздних Elves или Дракона королей и королев.
TT: Когда мы впервые встретились вы мне сказали об исследовательском проекте , что некоторые университет делает , чтобы попытаться определить "гены дракона" в людях. Что именно этот проект, и он по-прежнему происходит сегодня?
NDV: Чтобы ответить на этот вопрос , я снова вставить отрывок из "герцогства Angiers" таблицы здесь и развить идею впоследствии.
Я цитирую:
"Отношения между князем Mhaior , который, по происхождению Normanised, является главой ирландского Дома Вере и Николас де Вер; который - по гэльского крови происхождения - это начальник Тайрон Kildress отделения является то , что 4 - го и 14 - го кузенов. Оба разделяют различные идентичные гены. Найдено только 3% и 6% клинических образцов , испытанных в Великобритании, Николас де Вер и глава Дома в Эйре разделяют два набора редких генов каждый. Принц Mhaior является добычи Royal Коллисон и Николас де Вер имеет дополнительный набор этих генов из матрилинейной происхождения , которая также поддерживает спуск Royal Коллисон из Норфолка в своей родословной и повторяет селективных и эксклюзивные королевские и благородные брачные союзы , которые продолжались на протяжении всей истории Дома Вере.
Дом Weir и Вере изначально введен в эксплуатацию генетические тесты должны быть предприняты, чтобы подтвердить, помимо всего прочего, точной степени родства между их соответствующими линиями, а также с целью выяснения аномалий в генеалогии, которые неизбежно ползать в записи, как туманы времени закупоривать прошлое. Это было достигнуто успешно, и некоторые записи были внесены поправки, отражающие генетические результаты как в Николаевском родословной и что другого из его двоюродных братьев Vere в Ирландии, подтверждая, что Николаевский спуск является одним из старших родословных Дома Вере.
Тем не менее, генетический состав Дома Вере проявляясь из поколения в поколение оказалось настолько необычным, что, вне сферы компетенции первоначальной комиссии по семье, Департамент Haemogenetics Лондонского университета принял Верес в качестве специального изучения дела. На данном этапе исследования Конференция Представление документа было представлено до доставки медицинского документа на предстоящем симпозиуме по генетике в Соединенных Штатах, видный профессор в отделе, который является международно признанным пионером в области генетики. Другие расовые и митохондриальные исследования семьи Вере запланированы отделом ".
В основном было установлено, Верес, чтобы иметь больше генов, чем у обычных людей. Семейство исследование продолжается.
Что касается генов дракона, они были идентифицированы в результате научных исследований, вытекающих из обоих Лондонского университета и Оксфордского университета. Этот аспект проекта был завершен. Есть два основных типа генов, которые идут, чтобы составить современный дракона.
TT: драконы обладают "магические" силы ли? Если да, то их потомки обладают ими, а?
NDV: Это зависит от того, что вы имеете в виду Самая большая магия все , чтобы иметь возможность , естественно , до сих пор его ум до точки , где можно увидеть , что , как естественный ход событий , вытекающих из трансцендентного "волшебный". "Все акты магические действия." восприятие, некоторые объекты находятся в пределах досягаемости Драконов. Эти способности, хотя они различаются, являются наследственными.
TT: Ваш бывший соавтор Лоренс Гарднер много пишет о "Starfire" и сила шишковидной выделениями, которые изображаются как аналог Эликсир жизни или философский камень, даря повышенной способности мозга, магические способности, и длительной жизни на тот, кто потребляет его. Это элементы, которые он явно заберут из исследования. В Вашем письме, Вы утверждаете, что люди "Дракон крови" являются единственными био-химически оборудованных для производства этих веществ в их собственных телах на достаточно высоком уровне, чтобы получить результаты. Но Гарднер написал много об этом так называемый "одноатомного золота", и, кажется, думает, что это синтетический заменитель "Starfire", которые обычные люди могут потреблять, чтобы стать драконами сами. Вы знаете что-нибудь об этом веществе? Что Вы скажете по теории г Гарднера?
NDV: Во - первых , физические, гормональные элементы Starfire только одна сторона этой истории, и в своей книге я четко заявить , что весь процесс содержит несколько других "психо-соматические» элементы, не в последнюю очередь , что относящиеся к отношениям.
Что же касается возможности поп-таблетку, чтобы стать драконом, такой глупой отношения New Age проистекает из нелепого, полностью несостоятельной жадность инициативе свободного рынка утверждение, что любой человек может стать что-либо они выбирают, и совершенно необоснованное представление PC, что все равны.
Такого рода жалким либерализма, рождается как реакция на социально прививается менталитет жертвы, должны быть гнушалась всеми разумными существами, и поэтому мое отношение к концепции одноатомного золота как большой социальный уравнитель и эквалайзером является одним из презрения.
Тем не менее, вы не делаете много денег, говоря большую часть ваших читателей, что они генетически исключены из процесса они не могут испытать или понять; вы продаете New Age бессмыслицу, говоря Простодушный, что все они могут принять любую роль, которую они хотели, и принять любой модный образ жизни "" выбор, который прихотью и лживые рекламные диктату. Как вы знаете, я не пишу, чтобы заработать деньги, так что я не все равно, кто я оскорбляю с истиной. Могу ли я поп таблетку, чтобы превратить меня в черный афро Масаи воин? Нет. Есть ли порошок я могу предпринять, чтобы изменить меня в женщину? Конечно нет. Я не вижу необходимости в одноатомного золота сам. "Starfire" и Серафическое отношения работали отлично для меня, и в любом случае вы либо генетически Дракон или нет, и никакое количество одноатомного золота не собирается изменить свой генетический состав.
TT: Что было первоначальное значение и цель вампиризма?
NDV: Vampire происходит от слова "VBER" или "убер" , и означает , что она берет свое начало в Анатолии "ведьму" . расположение семи ежегодных друидических собраний: The Nemetons. "Ведьма" на гэльском языке является "Druidhe" или "друид". С практической точки зрения и предложил термин "убер" само по себе, скифское друид был повелителем, и поэтому первоначально вампир был повелителем, и, следовательно, Дракон.
Цель вампиризме зависит от типа вампиризме практикуемой. Starfire была цель "Royal" или друидов вампиризма в древних скифских семей, и в скифских "воин" вампиризм пить кровь павших братьев в бою был предназначен, чтобы принять их сущность и отвагу в реципиент. Кровь поверженных врагов тоже был пьян. В обоих случаях это также имел преимущество доливки свои уровни адреналина и тестостерона в пылу конфликта. Фольклорный образ вампира в Европе проистекает из этого исторического корня. Вампиризм был неотъемлемой частью скифского / Dragon жизни.
TT: Каковы значения терминов:
фея
фея
эльф
Гном
друид
арийский
фарисей
Являются ли эти все имена по существу одно и то же, в соответствии с вашей теорией?
NDV: Да, эти термины все связаны с тем же существом и штоком из генома дракона.
Фея = Судьба, и выдвижением контроллер судьбы человека и, следовательно, сюзерена. Во всех счетах фей они королевской крови или происхождения.
Пикси = "Pict Sidhe" или "вздыхать," после того, как привычка скифское / Dragon живописи или нанесения татуировки племенных маркировки на корпусе.
Эльф = "Белый или Сияющий", и относится к физиономии Драконов, как свидетельствуют современные наблюдатели.
Гном = "Wise один"; слово "гном" происходит от греческого корня "GNO," откуда мы получаем слово "Гнозис", что означает мистическую мудрость. Гнома был членом поэтому из расы Гномов или Мудрости, и этот термин является синонимом "арийца"; что означает слово "благородный", также проистекает из того же корня слова, как "Гном" "отпрыска мудрого или благородной расы.": ". Gno" Оттуда мы видим, что гном был дракон.
Друид = Мужчина или женщина от дерева, в частности, древо жизни - скифское Жрица - вниз, которого фильтры эссенции мозга в Грааля сосуда матки.
Арийская = Scion мудрого или благородной расы, смотри выше; другой термин для членов племени царя, где "король", от готического "Kuningjam" означает "отпрыск благородного (мудрый и, следовательно, арийская) раса».
Фарисей = В английском фольклоре "farisee" или "фе." На иврите это происходит от "Parush", что означает "тот, кто установлен в сторону," и, следовательно, выше других.
TT: Как символика Бафомету вписывается в вашей теории?
NDV: Бафомет может быть оценено на нескольких уровнях , в зависимости от вашей точки зрения. К церкви, Бафомет был дьяволом, и в некотором смысле это; поскольку коза, возглавляемые чучело представляет, на одном уровне, Энки; который позже появиться как Шайтана. Энки был известен как "Рам мерцающие воды», и был прототипом Золотого руна. Оказывается, что Бафомет является позже вариация на ту же тему. От Энки и его партнер Lilith мы получаем как Козерог, козел Воды; и Левиафан. В этом смысле можно оценить как глифа, указывающие на происхождение династии Дракона.
To compound this view, on occasion the Baphomet appears with the wings of an angel, and the angel clearly associates the Baphomet — as the badge and progenitor of the Dragon race — with the biblical “sons of God,” the Elohim.
On the alchemical level — in Eliphas Levi's depiction — we have the negation of the gender polarities and individuation within the Seraphic Relationship, a dynamic where, as Arthur Machin, put it “the two Dragons devour each other and another is born; a Phoenix, a Star of Wonder.” In Levi's glyph this process is encapsulated in the words “solve” and “coagula.” The upshot of all this is the psychological death of the “Old Man” of the unregenerate ego and the re-emergence in “the New Man” of transcendent perception and “union with Godhead.” Associated with this we have Baphomet or, as some put it, “Father Mithras.”
As Mithras, Baphomet represents the killing of the 'world bull' of unregenerate perception, from which sacrifice flows the fertility of the freed consciousness. Additionally, Mithras is the balancing medium between the extreme forces of generation and destruction — and therefore represents cosmic balance in the universe and personal detachment in the individual. Here we touch upon the Hermetic doctrine of “As above, so below.” What happens in the cosmos takes place also in man.
In this vein we can see that the Baphomet symbolizes the Beast 666 — man as God — uniting the Earthly nature of man represented as the goat; and the divine element of man as symbolized by the angel's wings. In this glyph we see that the divine is to be found in base nature and base nature is to be found in the divine. The Kabbalists put it as “Kether in Malkuth, and Malkuth in Kether.”
In practical terms it means that Heaven is on Earth and Earth is in Heaven and in reality there is no “path” to tread, no “system” of so-called enlightenment to follow, because it is all here now. Kill the “world bull” of fear and greed; still the mind and the timeless, the eternal, the heavenly becomes apparent here and now on Earth, not in some ethereal “life after death” state to come.
Baphomet, as the legendary head of the Templars, has an earlier correlation in the story of the detached head of the Arch-Druid Bran the Blessed which was also a font of wisdom and fertility. The close association of the Head of Wisdom — the Baphomet — with the Grail is demonstrated in the depiction of the Templar Skull and Cross Bones; the original “Joli Rouges” or “Jolly Roger.” Again this has a Hermetic meaning inasmuch as what is above (in the head) is also below (in the womb, or “Grail”). The head as a Grail symbol derives spiritually from the Celtic belief that the divine soul resided within the head. The severed head — the skull — resting on the crossed bones of the thighs near the pudenda denotes that the head and the womb were both the receptacles of the divine, and were therefore synonymous as symbols of the Holy Grail.
TT: Is the Dragon bloodline a Satanic or Luciferian bloodline?
NDV: Yes is the honest and simple answer.
TT: If a person believes that they have the Dragon gene, and they want to start developing the powers inherent in their blood, what course would you suggest they follow?
NDV: There isn't one gene, there are two main types which must be found together, and the best course of action, for those who want to be certain of their heritage at the outset, would be to contact a reputable commercial genetic laboratory and find out for sure.
Developing powers for their own sake isn't magic, it's greed, and greed and ambition are the destroyers of transcendent Dragon perception. Power flows naturally for those whose vision is clear, and clear perception will determine that those powers are used with detachment. Jesus said “Seek ye first the kingdom of God and all these things will be added unto you.” The fact of the matter is that to Dragons, Dragon magic is simple and straightforward and fundamentally it relies in discovering simplicity and stillness within the self.
If the reader believes they are of the Dragon Blood and they wish to explore the transcendent concept, in lieu of a lengthy explanation for which there isn't space within the confines of this interview, I would recommend a little book entitled The First and Last Freedom , written by Jiddu Krishnamurti.
TT: What is the history of the Dragon Court of which you are the sovereign head? Did you inherit this title, and if so, who from?
NDV: The Imperial and Royal Dragon Court appears repeatedly throughout the history of my family. It is the physical, cultural manifestation of the Dragon spirit inherent within the Vere Dragon blood, reaching back long before the time of Christ.
Briefly, to give a few examples, in more recent times it was the Royal Court of the Dragon Princess Milouziana from whom we are descended in numerous lines, and later it was the fairy Court of Alberic de Vere, the legendary Oberon.
Immediately following Alberic it was the Court of his son, Robert de Vere earl of Huntingdon, who was the historical Robin Hood; the elven, sacral priest-king of the witches. Later the Dragon Court was manifest in the “Thirteen Covens of Mid-Lothian,” and in the cabal of Lady Somerville, the witch-mother of Thomas of Edinburgh. Thomas was the grandson of Sir William Vere of Stonebyres and the elvin, Dragon priest-king of the Thirteen Covens.
Sir William was the son of James, 7th Baron Blackwood. Lady Jane Somerville's heraldic family badge is recorded as the fiery dragon surmounting the pentacle, denoting Dragon blood in the House of the Somerville earls.
Notably in our family the Dragon Court is also derived from the Court of the Pendragon Kings whose lineage we inherit through numerous marital alliances with our close cousins the Dukes of Hamilton, whose estates bordered our own in Lanarkshire. The Hamiltons were the heirs presumptive to the throne of Scotland.
Lateral inheritance from the extinct cadet cousin branch of the Vere earls of Oxford brings to the contemporary Court, via the 11th earl Richard de Vere, the degree of Societas Draconis — latterly misnamed “Sarkany Rend” — a membership bestowed upon him, it is believed academically, during his investiture into the Prince's Degree of the Order of the Garter, along with the Emperor Sigismund of Luxembourg, at St. George's Chapel, Windsor Castle.
The heraldry of the family prior to Richard's investiture into Societas Draconis already included the ancient Dragon motifs on both the paternal and maternal sides of the family, denoting pure Dragon blood in both descents, and reflecting the continuing presence of the Dragon Court in the family since the time of Princess Milouziana of the Scythians.
The contemporary Dragon Court is furthermore a combination of what Aleister Crowley would term several “currents,” of which the major external one to the family proper was bestowed via the Black Country Covenant of the Baphometic Order of the Cubic Stone, who trace their origins back to the Knights Templars. This was given in recognition of my family's hereditary involvement in Royal Witchcraft and the historical Dragon tradition. Other external currents derive from the Knighthood of the Plantagenet Clan Donnachaid, Dragon cousins to the House of Vere, and laterally from Dr John Dee's “School of Night,” of which Edward de Vere, the seventeenth earl of Oxford, was a prominent member. Edward also performed the rites of Dragon kingship in the family, specifically the rite of the kingship of the Calle Daouine.
Down the centuries the Royal Dragon Court is carried continuously in the Vere Dragon Blood.
It would be correct to say I inherited the Dragon Court by virtue of being a senior blood descendant of the House of Vere, and I am recognized as a Dragon sovereign by the other senior members of the family. Academic sources and references pertaining to these Dragon descents will be published with the book.
TT: How can one become a member of the Dragon Court, and once a member, what does one do? What is the current function of the Dragon Court?
NDV: Today the Court consists of participating family members here and in Ireland. In addition to these, we have emeritus officers whose functions are invaluable to the running of the Court.
One of the current, “outer” functions of the Dragon Court is as the custodian of the Dragon tradition within the Vere family, which includes the continuing study of the history and genealogy of its various branches, and the amendment of records as fresh knowledge comes to light.
Membership of the Dragon Court is given rarely. We are not a joining club, nor do we operate for monetary gain in any sense. As time passes the Dragon Ethos demands that the Dragon Court change and develop according to expediency. In the future we may well expand the membership of the Court to take in new Dragon members or to expand the number of emeritus officers.
TT: Many people have ascribed to you a radical political agenda, and say that you are trying to use your genealogy as a springboard for a bid for the throne of England, and other such nonsense. What is your response to these claims?
NDV: I cannot take such assertions seriously. The educated reader will already know that the House of Vere fielded over twenty prominent earls in an unbroken line over 561 years of British history. The House of Vere was credited with being the senior bloodline of England, both by its contemporaries and by later historians, and the Veres acted for centuries as Great Chamberlains to the various royal dynasties that came and went over time. As Great Chamberlains they were the closest advisors to the monarchs and were therefore the major influence or power behind the British throne.
In all this time the family never considered it expedient to stoop to pick up the Crown, as the House of Vere was above such considerations. It is apparent, given the family's pre-eminently powerful and influential historical position within British society, that the English monarchy was a trivia beneath the dignity and ambition of the House. I see no reason to change that opinion today, so as you say, the notion that I would demean myself by making a bid for the throne is utter nonsense. We have standards to maintain in this family.
In any event the monarchical system in Britain is, to the greatest extent, impotent, and so if one wanted real political power, the last place one would find it would be on the throne of England.
I quote as follows:
“Vere-de-Vere stalked into the English vernacular as a playful term meaning the grandest, proudest, most historic, indisputably aristocratic and absolutely creme de la creme of Anglo-Norman antiquity.
In fiction the expression is used for characters of, or assuming, unquestionable ancient lineage — and with good cause.
In the Middle Ages, owing to plagues and battlefield mortality, the average noble dynasty in England lasted not more than three generations. The de Veres, however, managed to maintain a line of twenty earls of Oxford over 561 years.
Lord Thomas Macaulay, Victorian historian supreme calls this family:
'The longest and most illustrious line of nobles that England has seen……….the noblest House in Europe.'”
— Verily Anderson, The Veres of Castle Hedingham.
“The noblest subject in England, and indeed, as Englishmen loved to say, the noblest subject in Europe, was Aubrey de Vere who derived his title through an uninterrupted male descent, from a time when the families of Howard and Seymour were still obscure, when the Nevills and Percys enjoyed only a provincial celebrity, and when even the great name of Plantagenet had not yet been heard in England.
One chief of the house of de Vere had held high command at Hastings; another had marched, with Godfrey and Tancred, over heaps of slaughtered Moslems, to the sepulchre of Christ. The first Earl of Oxford had been minister of Henry Beaucler. The third earl had been conspicuous among the lords who extorted the great Charter from John. The seventh earl had fought bravely at Cressy and Poictiers. The thirteenth earl had, through many vicissitudes of fortune, been the chief of the party of the Red Rose, and had led the van on the decisive day of Bosworth. The seventeenth earl had shone at the court of Elizabeth I, and had won for himself an honourable place among the early masters of English poetry…”
— Baron Thomas Babbington Macaulay, Lord Macaulay of Rothley Temple (1857).
We have no need for thrones or crowns to remind us of who we are.
TT: Are you a monarchist?
NDV: By definition Stalin was a “monarch,” as were all the presidents of the United States. By such a definition I cannot be said to be a monarchist per se. I am only a royalist with the greatest of qualifications because not all who contemporarily claim to be royal or those who have occupied the positions of royalty in history have actually been of royal blood.
TT: How do you feel about the current British monarchy?
NDV: I have no feelings about them one way or another. They have a tendency to frighten the hell out of British wildlife during the hunting season but in other respects they seem harmless enough, so I see no real reason not to leave them where they are. What would you replace them with anyway? President Blair? What a scary thought.
TT: There are a lot of wild theories being bandied about on the internet regarding the agenda of the Dragon Court. New World Order: The Movie regards the Dragon Court as part of an Illuminati conspiracy involving Satanism and Nazism. Heeding Bible Prophecy seems to proclaim nothing less than that the scion of the Devil — the Anti-Christ himself — will emerge from the ranks of the Dragon Court. David Icke and Arizona Wilder claim that your former co-author (and former Dragon Court member), Laurence Gardner, shape-shifted into a reptile and sacrificed babies in an underground military base at Montauk, New York. How close are these claims to the truth? What sinister activities are you hiding, Mr. de Vere?
NDV: People think that the Anti-Christ will emerge from the ranks of the Dragon Court? How intuitive of them.
My views on Nazism are well known. Nazism was a peasant movement populated by the worst in German peasant scum. Its “Aryan” philosophy and aspirations were a complete joke, and its blind devotion to nationalistic jingoism was the height of psychological blindness and wishful thinking. You can't make genetic Aryans — a race of kings — out of a nation of genetic turnip-peasants.
As for Satanism, if we mean adherence to Satan as some externalised deity separate from the Dragon blood and the object of religious devotion, such is an illogical nonsense. Originally the Satans in Biblical terms were nothing more than Circuit Prosecutors within the Jewish Theocratic system. Who in their right mind would worship lawyers? I wish people would study the facts. It would save so much time and energy.
Дэвид Icke , dear, oh dear, oh dear. David once announced on his website that Laurence Gardner and his cronies performed blood-drinking rituals at his “Columba House.” Before uttering this ridiculous libel David should have contacted the Post Office and checked as to where “Columba House” was actually situated. If he had have done the Post Office would quite happily have told him that “Columba House” was in fact a six inch by twelve inch Post Office Box at the local Post Office Branch in Tiverton, Devon. Exactly how many shape-shifting reptilian vampires and their victims can you get into a standard British Post Office Box?
Having all shape-shifted into reptilian vampires, David Icke would then have us believe that they all shrunk to the size of Minnie Mouse and got a postal worker to put them in the box. If the reader thinks this is possible or even probable, and I am sure that some who stay glued to the Internet all day will, then it is also entirely possible that the reader will believe that Laurence Gardner sacrificed babies at Montauk.
David Icke is concocting all this out of his cynical, fiscally motivated imagination and flogging it to a willing audience who, frighteningly enough, actually swallow it whole.
What sinister activities am I hiding? The internal activities of the Court are confidential.
TT: What are your personal beliefs regarding God, spirituality, and religion?
NDV: “Beliefs” regarding God and spirituality create religions, and religions create division and fear, within the individual and consequently within society as a whole. Religion is a crutch for the power hungry, the lazy, the weak minded and the unregenerate. Religions happen when people don't get the point of the message and blindly worship the message and the messenger, instead of grasping the gnosis inherent within the words that the message conveys.
TT: Who, in your opinion, was the Judeo-Christian god Jehovah? Do you believe that there is any historical basis behind the symbolic notion of Jehovah's conflict with Satan?
NDV: The Jews got the main tenets of their religion from the Babylonians during the exile. Therefore one can say that although the later Jehovah is a composite, his main attributes can be traced back to the god Enlil, and it was Enlil who started a war with his step-brother Enki concerning their individual number-ranking and seniority of position within the Anunnaki dynasty. So in general terms we can say that the conflict between Jehovah and Satan originated in a petty family squabble.
TT: What is your opinion of Christ and his ministry?
NDV: A pretty good one.
TT: What is your opinion of the Wiccan and New Age movements?
NDV: Again my views of the Wiccan and New Age movements are also well known. Wicca, the so-called “Old Religion” is no more than sixty years old and the New Age movement is nothing more than a baseless, cynical marketing ploy geared towards extracting money from the gullible.
TT: How do you feel about the sudden surge of interest in the “Grail bloodline” following the publication of The Da Vinci Code ? Do you think that the popularization of the idea is dangerous?
NDV: Some people, the minority, will maintain their interest and study the subject further, whilst the bulk of readers will treat the book as a novel experience and pass on to other subjects, once their curiosity has been satisfied. This happens with every new publication. The only inherent danger would be to the subject itself, once the money-vampires of the New Age get hold of it and try opening weekend workshops in “How to become a member of the Grail Bloodline.” It would then get promoted and marketed as a “lifestyle choice” open to all. Once such familiarity has bred the inevitable public contempt, the subject may well be rendered valueless to the new enquirer.
In this vein I note with derision that a group of uneducated homosexual activists in Denver, Colorado called the “Radical Faeries” , a “fast-growing circle of energetic earth-centered Gay men who meet for community,” have opened up courses in “Faerie Arts and Craft-A-Rama,” complete with coffee mornings. Thank you for passing their information sheet on to me. I read half of it and promptly threw it in the trash can. Truly these days everything is for sale and as a commodity, the sacred becomes profane.
TT: What is the one most important thing you want people to take away after reading The Dragon Legacy ?
Firstly, one of the central themes of the book is transcendent consciousness. I would like to feel that the reader may derive some interest in this concept from reading The Dragon Legacy and will pursue the subject further.
Secondly, the Dragon families have been with us for millennia and, in the course of time, their innate and rightful destiny will cause them to rise again.
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